As someone who works for tips in catering, I’d quit the moment tips stopped coming in. $15/hr minimum wage made sense in 2019, today my family would be fucking homeless even with my wife working full time, and I live in a fairly low CoL city. I’d literally be better off not working because daycare costs almost the same amount that I would make.
Meanwhile I’d have to deal with the stress of 5 assholes every day who think it’s ok to order $500 worth of food a piece with 2 hours of notice. No thanks.
The restaurant industry would come to a grinding halt.
Maybe I don’t know… maybe restaurants can charge actual cost for food and labour and pay people their worth… but nah, just pass on the cost to the consumers by blind charity.
Exactly, charge me what you need to to pay your employees what they’re worth.
Shit, I’d take paying them enough to go back to the way it was before anything less than 20% was taking food out of the server’s mouth. 0% fuck you I’m never coming back. ~5% substandard. 10-12% acceptable. 15-20% excellent.
Then you’d cry that your food is so expensive and your service sucks since the wait staff would be cut in half, or the restaurant will just go out of business and you’re left eating at a chain restaurant that serves you microwaved meals.
You’re wrong. Tipping is great for the server. If your server sucks, you don’t tip as much. If you don’t tip, your server isn’t making nearly as much therefore isn’t going to give a shit, and there will be less servers because of payroll so your experience is going to be shit.
You would have to pay your servers at a bare minimum 20 an hour more than they get now to keep any of them and most would leave with that.
Average time sitting and eating is an hour. Your food is now going to cost you at least 20 bucks more. Profit margins don’t care about your feelings and either do shareholders. You weren’t going to tip 20 bucks on 50 dollar meal were you?
My wife was a bartender at a corner bar and cleared 2500 to 3 grand per weekend. I was a part time waiter and made more than my buddy that was a full time union electrician. Make that shit hourly and it won’t be worth putting up with the Karen’s and Ken’s.
It’s a terrible experience. You made a bunch of common mental gymnastics that are somehow supposed to justify why the patron deciding the salary of the restaurant’s employee is better than the restaurant being responsible for pay and quality of their employees, we’ve all heard it before and it’s nonsense.
But hey, if you are suggesting it we can agree to advocate for not tipping at all if patrons don’t think it is deserved.
Your food will cost more than 20% more, there will be less waitstaff, and the waitstaff that is there won’t give a shit because they’re hourly and making a fraction of what they did with tips.
The more nonsense that people like you say the closer it makes me to abstaining from tipping so I’m not contributing to such an ass backwards system people bend themselves over backwards to defend
you don’t seem to have considered that your profession exists in every other country, and in your nation’s peers, your peers in the same profession are less miserable than you seem to be.
As someone who works for tips in catering, I’d quit the moment tips stopped coming in. $15/hr minimum wage made sense in 2019, today my family would be fucking homeless even with my wife working full time, and I live in a fairly low CoL city. I’d literally be better off not working because daycare costs almost the same amount that I would make.
Meanwhile I’d have to deal with the stress of 5 assholes every day who think it’s ok to order $500 worth of food a piece with 2 hours of notice. No thanks.
The restaurant industry would come to a grinding halt.
Maybe I don’t know… maybe restaurants can charge actual cost for food and labour and pay people their worth… but nah, just pass on the cost to the consumers by blind charity.
Exactly, charge me what you need to to pay your employees what they’re worth.
Shit, I’d take paying them enough to go back to the way it was before anything less than 20% was taking food out of the server’s mouth. 0% fuck you I’m never coming back. ~5% substandard. 10-12% acceptable. 15-20% excellent.
Then you’d cry that your food is so expensive and your service sucks since the wait staff would be cut in half, or the restaurant will just go out of business and you’re left eating at a chain restaurant that serves you microwaved meals.
Why would people cry that the food is so expensive when it costs the same as after tipping?
Tipping is a horrible experience for everyone besides the restaurant owner
You’re wrong. Tipping is great for the server. If your server sucks, you don’t tip as much. If you don’t tip, your server isn’t making nearly as much therefore isn’t going to give a shit, and there will be less servers because of payroll so your experience is going to be shit.
You would have to pay your servers at a bare minimum 20 an hour more than they get now to keep any of them and most would leave with that. Average time sitting and eating is an hour. Your food is now going to cost you at least 20 bucks more. Profit margins don’t care about your feelings and either do shareholders. You weren’t going to tip 20 bucks on 50 dollar meal were you?
My wife was a bartender at a corner bar and cleared 2500 to 3 grand per weekend. I was a part time waiter and made more than my buddy that was a full time union electrician. Make that shit hourly and it won’t be worth putting up with the Karen’s and Ken’s.
It’s a terrible experience. You made a bunch of common mental gymnastics that are somehow supposed to justify why the patron deciding the salary of the restaurant’s employee is better than the restaurant being responsible for pay and quality of their employees, we’ve all heard it before and it’s nonsense.
But hey, if you are suggesting it we can agree to advocate for not tipping at all if patrons don’t think it is deserved.
By saying patrons, you’re not here in the US so, go fly a kite. Slinging insults is easy, you didn’t offer a counter point to anything I said.
Lol you’re just showing yourself to be more of a fool
You’ll always be the bigger fool so it’s alright.
Why would I cry when I’m already expected to pay 20% on top??
Your food will cost more than 20% more, there will be less waitstaff, and the waitstaff that is there won’t give a shit because they’re hourly and making a fraction of what they did with tips.
The more nonsense that people like you say the closer it makes me to abstaining from tipping so I’m not contributing to such an ass backwards system people bend themselves over backwards to defend
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You ever been a server? No, you haven’t so sit down.
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Then pay waitstaff more. They should not need to rely on generosity of big tippers… just make everyone pay the true cost of prepared food.
Go read my original comment.
you don’t seem to have considered that your profession exists in every other country, and in your nation’s peers, your peers in the same profession are less miserable than you seem to be.