I have completely stopped using google services and software on my personal devices (even have lineageos + microg on my phone. The problem is that I can’t just explain to the technically uneducated people that I changed mail providers. How should I go about doing this?
God I fucking hate email so much. Why can’t we all agree to move to literally anything else?
… Such as?
I mean take your pick. Matrix is probably a good option…?
Or signal if you want a centralized system.
I mean it’s not ideal but still better than email.
Signal is a non-profit that could go tits-up at any time and then suddenly we would have no more communication. Whereas Matrix is not dependent on the Matrix Foundation to function. It’s just a protocol, much like email.
Yes, I agree that centralization isn’t always a good idea.
@boogetyboo
Well, we’re talking over one potential alternative, but how many competing standards is that now?
@helenslunch
How this would translate to business applications - audit trails, documenting decisions etc - that’s where I can’t see a way out of email.
I hate it too, I need it and hate it. But it is the standard and honestly if we all switched to whatever else, we would hate that too. The mechanism isn’t the problem, imo, it’s the requirement of maintenance and monitoring.
Yes, that’s the problem. A standard invented 40 years ago. One we’ve never been able to move away from.
Absolutely not. There are a dozen different protocols that could solve the problems inherent in email.
None of those are problems for me.
What is it that you hate about email, then? You’ve piqued my curiosity.
Threading and formatting. Trying to decipher who said what and when. The increasingly ridiculous size of signatures in every email. Being dropped from an email thread because someone hit reply instead of reply-all. Or the opposite. Being unable to leave email chains. Creating a new email chain every time you send a new subject. Trying to find absolutely anything in my inbox due to the absolute disarray of it all.
Of course Gmail specifically introduces a whole other level of bullshit. Like a completely broken search function, and the inability to block anyone (spammers), the “all mail” option not showing all mail, folders being collapsed in the sidebar and fucking react emojis…
Thanks for elaborating! You raise a lot of good points.
I recently tried to consolidate all of my various email addresses into Thunderbird and oh boy is it fun trying to get a 20 year old Gmail account to cooperate. I often find myself having to open up Gmail in my browser just to get anything more complex than checking or writing new email accomplished. It doesn’t help that I have a quarter of a million messages organized between ~70 “folders”, I’m sure, but holy hell… it’s a nightmarescape. Thunderbird never stops querying the server. I’m about ready to backup all of the old messages and just burn the whole account down.
I could never get into Thunderbird. It would always crash out from the shear quanitity of old emails in each of my accounts.
It took me about a year to move my personal account away from Gmail and finally delete it.
Unfortunately Gmail is required for my work. I often direct people to another business email I set up but the boss doesn’t like that.