• Virtual Insanity @lemmy.world
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      This is true, but these people are too stupid to accept facts and feel better picking on the dangerous black rifle.

      The fully semi automatic clip fed AR-15 that fires 9mm bullets that will blow a lung out is the real problem.

      No… Just no.

      Guns ARE a problem, as is mental health and the mindset of people.

      But per capita Sweden has more houses with assault rifles (literally military provided rifles to national service citizens) but no mass shootings there?

      I’m actually in favour of better gun control, but I can’t think of a truly practical way to achieve it.

      The US pro gun people are in denial about the issue, and the US anti gun people are equally in denial about the true issues and facts, so much so that their cause is suffering for it.

      I’m concerned about guns… But I’m not stupid.

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        But per capita Sweden has more houses with assault rifles (literally military provided rifles to national service citizens) but no mass shootings there?

        What does a person in Sweden have to do to possess a gun? Additionally, what is their policy on ammunition?

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          Sweden had mandatory conscription from 1901 through to the cold war. About 85% of men were conscripted.

          The situation had changed more recently to a national service system.

          All those who do combat or combat related service are issued an AK 4 (Swedish production of the H&K G3) rifle, or the more modern AK 5 based on the Belgian FN FNC.

          Both of these are far superior ‘killing machines’ than a semi auto AR-15. The newer AR5 will even run the same magazines as the AR15,

          On completion of service the option is given to keep the rifle.

          The government provides ammunition and access to training facilities so as people can remain proficient with their rifle.

          More recently the keeping of ammunition at home has been banned but there is no doubt already millions of rounds in the wild. This law has preparations to be lifted rapidly if required for an emerging security crisis.

          Their new national service system now provides options for logistics and medical for those that don’t want to pickup a firearm. Pretty good idea I think.

          Clearly a different mentality and different state of national mental health in Sweden.

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      It’s almost as if they simply want to disarm you so they can do whatever they want with jack-booted armed cops as their muscle.

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        I’m not understanding- by banning the AR-15 only, they will be doing nothing effective but also they’re going to disarm everyone? I’m not sure why the first one is necessary if they’re going to do the second.

        That said, I’m 46 and I’ve heard “they’re coming for your guns” my whole life. I’m wondering when they’re going to do it because they’re sure taking their time.

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          I said when your age you haven’t tried to buy a gun or ammo recently have you? I hadn’t in a while back when I was in my twenties.

          I mean my personal anecdote is : I bought a gun and ammunition back in the early 2000s. As I’m no gun nut I hadn’t messed with it much until somewhat recently.

          I called up my police department and my police department said that there’s three conflicting laws and how to transport my gun to the shooting range. I think you just haven’t kept up at the times. I mean no insult saying that since I’m your age. 😁

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          That said, I’m 46 and I’ve heard “they’re coming for your guns” my whole life. I’m wondering when they’re going to do it because they’re sure taking their time.

          Could it be possible that it hasn’t happened yet because people have been fighting against it?

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                  They’re just campaigning and advocating for it with no intention of following through on it?

                  Facts First: Biden’s gun control plan does not include confiscating legally owned weapons and an interpretation of a “viral video” is a mishearing of what was said. The former vice president has said in the past that a Biden administration would come for people’s “assault weapons.”

                  But in August 2019, during an interview with CNN’s Anderson Cooper, Biden was asked about people who think a Biden administration “means they’re going to come for my guns.” Biden replied, “Bingo, you’re right if you have an assault weapon. The fact of the matter is they should be illegal. Period.”

                  When asked about this exchange, a Biden official told CNN, “Joe Biden defeated the NRA to ban assault weapons before, and he was reminding viewers that as president he will do it again.”

                  https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/21/politics/fact-check-joe-biden-gun-control/index.html

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                    Okay? Where does any of that say there will be mass gun confiscation? Was there mass gun confiscation when the Assault Weapons Ban was in effect? Wouldn’t that have been the time to do it?