• SwampYankee@mander.xyz
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          1 year ago

          False dichotomy. The US ceasing to exist does not stop those things from happening. Indeed, in the short term, things would probably get a hell of a lot worse, as there would be a massive, global power vacuum.

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              The collapse of the Roman Empire led to hundreds of years of conflict and poverty in Europe. We see the same today in the wake of the Ottoman Empire in the Middle East & North Africa.

              Do you have any reasonable expectation of what happens in the aftermath? Or do you just want to burn it down without thinking about the consequences?

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      He doesn’t have to fight for me, but he’s most certainly not actively fighting against me. There is a big difference between a party rooted in corruption and too busy stuffing their own pockets to care, and a party rooted in corruption that’s actively scapegoating the vulnerable, minorities, and the non-wealthy in order to enrich itself.

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          enables the Republicans…

          True…but the other realistic option under the current US electoral system is THE REPUBLICANS. The ones that you’re blaming him for enabling.

          To claim he is not fighting against you is wrong if you are poor, nonwhite, non citizen or many other groups.

          Might want to look up the last few years of Republican policies and talking points. Gaslighting is not a good look

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              So stop the impending societal collapse by…hastening societal collapse?

              There is a conversation to be had about reforms that absolutely need to be driven in the progressive arm of the Democratic party in general, but that is a separate conversation and one to be had through primary votes and reform (at least in the current iteration of the electoral system). What you’re advocating above is the equivalent of shooting myself in the dick to prevent an oncoming car from hitting me. The car is still going to hit me, but now I’ll also have a blown off dick.

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                  The current order, to which you mean the freely elected representation of the public. Maybe the people will rise up and then we can have a dictator be even worse as what always occurs in any communist system. That is because every communist system doesn’t get rid of the root of the problem, money and ownership. All it ever does is allow the powerful to take everything and leave nothing for the rest. See the USSR, North Korea, and China. Humans suck and communism is not the answer. The answer is a well-regulated free market system that rewards success, taxes the wealthy and provides for those in need. I think we will see that transition in the next 30 years in the United States, but the wealthy will be kicking and screaming the whole way as they lose power.