So how are we supposed to actually get a genuinely progressive candidate in? And we can’t just leave things with the terrible two-party system we have. What’s the alternative other than “Vote lesser evil! Maybe we’ll get someone good rather than just not terrible eventually!”? Am I missing something here? ~Cherri
I mean kind of, but more like, “Let’s keep that crazy guy from making things absolutely dogshit and then from there we figure improvements out, but if the fascists take over it’s game over because they change the rules as soon as they get power in order to keep power.”
It’s not voting for a lesser evil. It’s a vote to keep democracy turned on. Once the democracy is turned off it’s incredibly hard to turn back on again. One guy talks about invalidating elections due to imaginary fraud while selling state secrets. The other guy is just old but he likes it when people vote in elections for things. Is that the lesser of two evils? Kind of a silly phrase. Any two things, one will be more evil, and as nothing is perfect, the other will have less but still some evil. The lesser of two evils is an excuse to do nothing or in this case, scuttle any hope of doing better in the future.
Why can’t we do more than one thing at the same time? Why not try to make things better than before and prevent the fascists (they’re not “crazy”, fasciam isn’t caused by mental illness) from taking over? I mean things being as terrible as they are for the working class right now is a pretty major factor in rhe recent rise in fascism, so really you have to do the former to do the latter, otherwise it won’t work. You have to meaningfully improve things to combat fascism. So what are we supposed to do to get things like UBI; single-payer M4A; a voting system better than first past the post, student debt cancellation and free college tuition; codification of the Convention of the Rights of the Child, queer civil rights, and Roe v. Wade, and other progressive policies to actually be implemented?.. ~Cherri
Primaries. It’s where most elections actually happen anyway. The vast majority of Senate seats are gerrymandered so that one or the other party is practically guaranteed a win. Generally the best strategy is to vote in whatever primary is going to win the general election, and try to move the levers from the inside instead of putting forth someone that is guaranteed to lose in the general.
How do we do all of that and get rid of the gerrymandering and stuff? Right now it doesn’t feel possible but… I don’t know, I forgot where I was going with this. ~Cherri
So how are we supposed to actually get a genuinely progressive candidate in? And we can’t just leave things with the terrible two-party system we have. What’s the alternative other than “Vote lesser evil! Maybe we’ll get someone good rather than just not terrible eventually!”? Am I missing something here? ~Cherri
I mean kind of, but more like, “Let’s keep that crazy guy from making things absolutely dogshit and then from there we figure improvements out, but if the fascists take over it’s game over because they change the rules as soon as they get power in order to keep power.”
It’s not voting for a lesser evil. It’s a vote to keep democracy turned on. Once the democracy is turned off it’s incredibly hard to turn back on again. One guy talks about invalidating elections due to imaginary fraud while selling state secrets. The other guy is just old but he likes it when people vote in elections for things. Is that the lesser of two evils? Kind of a silly phrase. Any two things, one will be more evil, and as nothing is perfect, the other will have less but still some evil. The lesser of two evils is an excuse to do nothing or in this case, scuttle any hope of doing better in the future.
Why can’t we do more than one thing at the same time? Why not try to make things better than before and prevent the fascists (they’re not “crazy”, fasciam isn’t caused by mental illness) from taking over? I mean things being as terrible as they are for the working class right now is a pretty major factor in rhe recent rise in fascism, so really you have to do the former to do the latter, otherwise it won’t work. You have to meaningfully improve things to combat fascism. So what are we supposed to do to get things like UBI; single-payer M4A; a voting system better than first past the post, student debt cancellation and free college tuition; codification of the Convention of the Rights of the Child, queer civil rights, and Roe v. Wade, and other progressive policies to actually be implemented?.. ~Cherri
Love the downvotes with no explanation or answer to the question (even if it’s just “I don’t know”) /s ~Cherri
Primaries. It’s where most elections actually happen anyway. The vast majority of Senate seats are gerrymandered so that one or the other party is practically guaranteed a win. Generally the best strategy is to vote in whatever primary is going to win the general election, and try to move the levers from the inside instead of putting forth someone that is guaranteed to lose in the general.
How do we do all of that and get rid of the gerrymandering and stuff? Right now it doesn’t feel possible but… I don’t know, I forgot where I was going with this. ~Cherri