• Oni_eyes@sh.itjust.works
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    6 months ago

    Dude. We don’t disagree with you. We just differ in that apparently we don’t like getting chastised about who to vote for by people who don’t participate until the presidential election, but you’re ok with that so long as it’s “for social justice”. I get it’s for social justice and if they cared enough to post online they should care enough to show up supporting a local candidate that has their ideals when it’s not the presidential race. Shit is hard to do and I don’t appreciate putting in the work and getting bitched at by couch warriors. How has that not gotten across to you?

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      6 months ago

      Because you’re complaining about people who you believe don’t vote the way you want them to (in this case, not casting a vote). I mean, if you want to do the same thing you’re criticizing people for, then you must at least believe that you are subject to that criticism. You think they’re harraunging you for voting for someone while not visibility engaging in putting in the work. How is complaining about those people any different?

      Let me be clear: the Democratic party and particularly the Biden campaign is failing hard at giving people something they want to vote for. They have gone all in on being a protest vote against Trump, and that’s not very exciting, especially given the strong misgivings people have about the Biden Administration’s role in supplying the weapons used in Gaza. Like, what is the Democratic Party planning to do to reach someone in Southeast Michigan who lost relatives to weapons Biden’s admin sent to Israel? Who voted “uncommitted” in the primary because of that? Because I haven’t seen anything besides “Trump would kill more of your family” which rings awfully hollow. This is in a state that was fairly key to Biden’s previous victory. So, what work is being done on the ground to reach out? Like, that’s the sort of things that actually need, like, visibility campaigns, so if that work is being done, why aren’t showing off the work they’re putting in?

      The way I see it, so much online arguing is devoted to people complaining that “do-nothings are complaining about how I plan to use my vote!”. There is so much more that can be done outside of elections and GOTV that spending all our efforts solely on the elections is a grave misuse. You think the people complaining about people voting for Biden and Trump are sitting on the couch and not doing anything? Encourage them to get out and do the things that make it so we don’t have to vote for the same horrible dichotomy every four years. Are they doing the work? Encourage them to give visibility to the work they’re doing (or the work people like them are doing). Stop complaining about how people handle dealing with bad choices in a system that isn’t really responsive to them.

      • Oni_eyes@sh.itjust.works
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        6 months ago

        I will continue to complain about people who only show up once every four years and bitch about the choices. I do outreach pretty much every year in my local area for whatever election is up next, so seeing apathetic assholes who try to push that apathy on others instead of standing for what they believe the other three years is still going to rankle with me. If they can’t hold their convictions and get involved then they should shut the fuck up about not voting when they can’t bring themselves to. Don’t vote, fine, but if you’re not putting in the work for change don’t try and bring everyone else down with your lazy shit.