Pros of Proton Pass over bitwarden

• Much better UI/UX (in terms of looks and ease to navigate)
• The app is feels much faster than Bitwarden’s, maybe its not objectively, but it feels lightyears ahead in terms of >speed
• Possibility for separate email and username fields
• more seamless integration with simplelogin aliases than what Bitwarden has
• TOTP is available in the free version

1. Bitwarden is currently working on redesigning their apps, which will also include new native mobile apps that will fix the current speed issues. You can already test them if you are interested.

2. Even if Bitwarden doesn’t have as straightforward implementation regarding the separate email and username fields, you can easily use custom fields to solve this issue. As you also noted, Bitwarden will also autofill these.

3. Even though Proton’s SimpleLogin implementation is more simple and likely easier to use compared to Bitwarden, it also poses a serious lock-in issue with Proton Pass. If you ever decide to downgrade to a free plan, Proton will disable all your aliases that go beyond the max limit (10) in the free plan. This is a big contrast to even SimpleLogin that will keep all of your aliases operational even if you downgrade to the free plan. I would also take Bitwarden’s alias implementation over Proton Pass because they support multiple different aliasing providers compared to just SimpleLogin. In the past I have had issues registering a SimpleLogin alias for some sites, so all I needed to do was to change to DuckDuckGo that Bitwarden also supports and the site accepted that one. This is also a feature I doubt Proton would never implement because they own SimpleLogin.

4. Proton’s free version only supports three TOTP logins, so not very usable, and Bitwarden’s Premium plan is only $10 per year, so not a big deal to upgrade to that if you need this feature.

There seems to be a specific problem with registering passkeys, but logging in should work fine if you have already registered a passkey for a site. Not sure if this is the case with all password managers, or just Bitwarden.

Since the vault is end-to-end encrypted, it shouldn’t matter where it is hosted, even if it is in the cloud. Here is what a security researcher and a password cracker Jeremy M. Gosney has said about this after the LastPass incident.

”Is the cloud the problem? No. The vast majority of issues LastPass has had have nothing to do with the fact that it is a cloud-based solution. Further, consider the fact that the threat model for a cloud-based password management solution should *start* with the vault being compromised. In fact, if password management is done correctly, I should be able to host my vault anywhere, even openly downloadable (open S3 bucket, unauthenticated HTTPS, etc.) without concern. I wouldn’t do that, of course, but the point is the vault should be just that – a vault, not a lockbox.”

A bad idea.

PrivacyGuides has also just recently started to recommend Redlib.

Interestingly, the article mentions twice how Proton doesn’t do flashy marketing campaigns when that is precisely the aspect people have criticized Proton for years, usually around Black Friday when they portray the discount as much better than what it is.

This is also not their only controversy. When someone proposed in their forums that Kagi should add a widget that would help people get help if they are searching for suicide material, Kagi refused because that isn’t the result that the person was searching for.