Always, always projection, isn’t it. Has the US taught their puppet any other tricks?

this makes libs wanting the war to go on make my blood boil even more

You have no idea… There’s very little patience left for them because of shit like that

Imperialist Colonial Court

Smug lame.ee lib, probably from a cushy Western country that has not seen a war in at least 80 years thinking that they’ll never find out after fucking around. Typical

Are they, though? Libs typically pretend they were on the right side of history after the conflict has ended. Or they just forget about it.

idiot

I meant “post-Soviet Ukraine”, for the sake of simplicity. But if we go this far - let’s also put the Austrian-German puppet (“UNR”), operation Belladonna and the original Banderites on top of all that. There’s little point though - they are still ignorant af.

The difference between libs and chuds at this point in history is in their ability to hide their blood thirst. Also - history starts when CNN, NBC, ABC, DEF, XYZ, DoReMiFaSolLaSi News tells them it ought to start. No mention of 2 US-orchestrated color revolutions in Ukraine, no mention of Nazifying Ukraine since the 90s, no mention of crushing all anti-Maidan anti-coup dissent by those fascists in 2014, no mentions of UAF shelling civilians in the Donbass for 8 straight years… Nothing. Goldfish memory and bloodlust

God, programming.dev libs are even worse than fucking lame.ee-s…

A lot of people (not just the Banderites but also apolitical, libs and “brainwashed” as well) unironically believe Mariupol is still, like, a pile of rubble and no one lives there anymore because ebil Russia

If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, walks like a duck…

You want to know what an excuse is? Ask these ghouls why they sabotaged the Istanbul talks.

Or maybe their capitalist hegemony is in some deep shit and the only way the empire can hold out trying to uphold it is playing with fire. Simply said - desperation.

I expected the US to have kept their Nazi dogs on a leash this time around. That way, they could have painted a rosy picture to their domestic libs - “oh, look, how progressive they are over there! They have pride parades and Starbucks”

It seems like the Nazis just don’t give a fuck sometimes.

In other words, the most free© and democratic™

30+ years of poverty, misery and capitalist plunder, culminating in a devastating military conflict - all because of the USSR is not around anymore. Yet, they go out and “celebrate” its dissolution, surrounded by rivers of literal shit because the “independent” government stole the money that was set aside to repair the sewage system (Soviet-built, by the way). Fucking cucks…

Seriously, though - the US has the best propaganda money can buy.

Thank you, comrade.

considering the horrors inflicted

Still being inflicted. I mean, it’s bad everywhere, but it is no surprise it’s even worse in Odessa and Kharkov

those with sense should probably leave the country, or at least hope their homes lie behind the Russian side of the border

Sadly, that would exclude a lot of people - the majority would not be able to afford uprooting and leaving. My parents, for example, are way in their 60s and retired - you know how it goes with neoliberal pensions, their only hope is me. And I’m not trying to be dramatic - that’s just how it’s going to be.

There’s no reason to believe the Nazis will be ousted anytime soon, not anywhere without Russian assistance, at least. By-and-large they’ve preserved their ideologically-aligned troops while sending the conscripts to the front to die- and they have the backing of the entire west behind them.

And this is precisely the reason why I think Russia is going to denazify the ENTIRE Ukraine. There’s not going to be any partitioning, they will not carve out Western Ukraine and give it to the Poles. The Banderites will ALWAYS pose a problem for Russia. You have to remember - the majority of the people in Ukraine are bilingual and they can either easily switch to Russian or quickly pick it up. A perfect pool to draw future terrorists against Russia who can blend in and wreak havoc. Russia may not want to go there militarily, but they are (I think) going to try to topple the government, install their people, and order those people to go on a hunt in Western Ukraine. How that’s going to play out - whether there’s going to be a long, protracted guerrilla warfare or the Nazis will just run like the little rats they are - we shall see…

Honestly? I genuinely think that Russian annexation is the best of a plethora of bad options and possibilities for Ukraine’s future ahead.

I genuinely don’t know, maybe you are right but who knows. One factor that can play a significant role is the way the local people would react. My take on it is that the locals will see it as occupation, which may mean the US could continue to destabilize the region over and over again, funding guerrilla groups and clandestine operations just for the sake of it, and I think Russia knows that as well… I mean, if we randos understand this - they do too. Running an occupation is difficult and expensive, annexing a problematic region may play a very bad joke.

spreading

I love how the word “spreading” sounds as though it’s a disease - like they are “infecting” you with it. Real freedom and democracy is not fought for, won and built brick by brick, no, it has to be “spread”. Almost as if it’s only Freedom to exploit, Democracy for the rich

Hopefully what the west receives by the end of all this is a rump western Ukraine (Galicia-Volhynia), landlocked, in complete disrepair, and a complete festering mess for the west to deal with.

Yeah… Though, that wouldn’t be too rosy for the non-Nazi people who live in the country, myself included.