disconnect the circumstances from their perpetrators.

Bud, that is literally what the cartoon is doing, Jesus christ.

Good job for seeing past the cartoon i guess but you’re hallucinating commentary that isn’t there lmao.

This is like when Musk thought the ‘machine’ in ‘Rage Against the Machine’ was supposed to be communism lol

Even in the most charitable reading, Israel’s atrocities are only the backdrop to what is objectively about Arab Muslims and Islamic practices specifically

It isn’t israel slapping the hand of a starving Gazan, it’s a Muslim woman in Islamic dressings.

You dont have to be the author to see that they’ve left israel out of this drawing

Go ahead and point to the character in the cartoon that’s meant to represent israel. I’ll wait.

lmao, the thing you’re insisting is the subject of this cartoon is literally not present in it.

Strange way to evoke Israel’s motivation to starve Gazans by pointing to the religion of the victims.

Israel wants them dead or gone so they can have their land.

Religion is what they use justify their lack of humanity, but its simple greed and depravity that motivates them to abandon it.

The critique of the trolly problem isn’t that you don’t still make the choice, it’s that the outcome was predetermined before you even got there.

Leftists who are making a point of abstaining are doing so to point out that voters have no control over the trolly to begin with - that the choice is artificial because the outcomes were pre-selected by someone/something else to ensure a particular outcome, and that participating in that choice only ends up legitimizing that process.

The joke only works if the reader holds the Islamophobic view that Palestinians were starving because their faith forbids them from eating, and not because Israel was starving them by blockading humanitarian aid.

Claiming this conflict isn’t about religion is like claiming the US civil war wasn’t about slavery.

Err, I actually kinda like this comparison to the civil war - not because the war in Gaza is ‘about religion’ - but because it’s about Israel’s right to occupy/subjugate Palestinian territories and Palestinians within the West Bank and Gaza, which is similar to the South fighting over their right to own/subjugate people of color (though not entirely, since Israel doesn’t claim racial superiority (at least not explicitly)).

What’s strange about this comparison is that it inadvertently casts Israel as the slavers, even though it seems like the intent is to indict both Judaism and Islam equally

You just gotta know which things you disagree on, and why they might strongly disagree with you, and not just say “fuck it, imma blast off”.

If you go in wanting to make a point then yea. They will not be courteous.

I don’t see an issue with it, no.

Erm. Well. That’s rough, but I can’t say I didn’t expect it.

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Then I’m not sure why you thought I called him a Nazi, I was very clear about what I was accusing him of and apparently you agree (though, on second reading it doesn’t look like you said you agreed, just that you warned him, so maybe you don’t agree with my accusation?)

Not my fault he picked that particular bigoted apple off that particular tree. (not that picking a bigoted apple makes one a bigot)

i do like how you ignored mentioning the dox attempts

I have no way of knowing if that’s accurate, nor to i have any way of knowing what it was that got you perma’d.

try to say that stalin was a disaster for communism and his dictatorship killed it, then you’ll be in trouble

I probably wouldn’t say that, because the US defeated communism (according to their own accounting). I would tread lightly around anything I may not agree with them on, but I do happen to agree with them on a lot. At least most of them. Half of them. Maybe slightly less than a majority of them.

What can I say, they aren’t a monolith.

Lucky for all of us that none of those friendships lasted, then, huh?

You reported me for being off-topic, and I agreed with you and asked if you wanted to drop the topic.

Lol I reported you for breaking the rule, not me. To your credit you didn’t bring those countries up again, though.

I have, and I was, and no, I got perma’d.

Welp, i guess there we have it. I’ve so far managed to avoid provoking them myself, cross my fingers I don’t get on their bad side.

Maybe? You should go and try provoking them, see if they still treat you with civility.

edit: goat is right, I was using sarcasm and did not indicate that clearly. I do not support going there to cause trouble, but you are absolutely allowed to go there and behave.

Yup, and I’m fine with allowing any soviets spewing antisemitic or Islamophobic slurs have their lights put out, too.

Same with this guy, whoever he is.

yes, I saw your report, I appreciate it. Do more reports

I’ll be sure to do that, and I’ll look forward to seeing you give yourself a stern warning for it, too.

Lmao I didn’t even say he was being a nazi, I said he was using the same rhetoric the Nazis used

He could think I called him a platypus, that wouldn’t make it accurate.

edit: conspicuously absent is your opinion on if what he was doing was blaming the Palestinian Genocide on their Islamic beliefs, and if (to your recollection) the Nazis also blamed the Jews for their own genocide. Fair if you don’t think so, but you’ve so far avoided elaborating on your opinion on Islam.

Careful not to betray your commitment to nonviolence, bud.

(still no acknowledgement of the Islamophobia of the cartoon)