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  • hrrrngh@awful.systemstoTechTakes@awful.systems•"Sam Altman is one of the dullest, most incurious and least creative people to walk this earth."English
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    4 months ago

    I’m in the same boat. Markov chains are a lot of fun, but LLMs are way too formulaic. It’s one of those things where AI bros will go, “Look, it’s so good at poetry!!” but they have no taste and can’t even tell that it sucks; LLMs just generate ABAB poems and getting anything else is like pulling teeth. It’s a little more garbled and broken, but the output from a MCG is a lot more interesting in my experience. Interesting content that’s a little rough around the edges always wins over smooth, featureless AI slop in my book.

    slight tangent: I was interested in seeing how they’d work for open-ended text adventures a few years ago (back around GPT2 and when AI Dungeon was launched), but the mystique did not last very long. Their output is awfully formulaic, and that has not changed at all in the years since. (of course, the tech optimist-goodthink way of thinking about this is “small LLMs are really good at creative writing for their size!”)

    I don’t think most people can even tell the difference between a lot of these models. There was a snake oil LLM (more snake oil than usual) called Reflection 70b, and people could not tell it was a placebo. They thought it was higher quality and invented reasons why that had to be true.

    Orange site example:

    Like other comments, I was also initially surprised. But I think the gains are both real and easy to understand where the improvements are coming from. [ . . . ]

    I had a similar idea, interesting to see that it actually works. [ . . . ]

    Reddit:

    I think that’s cool, if you use a regular system prompt it behaves like regular llama-70b. (??!!!)

    It’s the first time I’ve used a local model and did [not] just say wow this is neat, or that was impressive, but rather, wow, this is finally good enough for business settings (at least for my needs). I’m very excited to keep pushing on it. Llama 3.1 failed miserably, as did any other model I tried.

    For story telling or creative writing, I would rather have the more interesting broken english output of a Markov chain generator, or maybe a tarot deck or D100 table. Markov chains are also genuinely great for random name generators. I’ve actually laughed at Markov chains before with friends when we throw a group chat into one and see what comes out. I can’t imagine ever getting something like that from an LLM.

  • hrrrngh@awful.systemstoTechTakes@awful.systems•Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending Sunday 18 August 2024English
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    9 months ago

    Oh whoops, I should have archived it.

    There were about 7 images posted of users roleplaying with bots, all ending with a bot response that cut off halfway with an error message that read “This content may violate our policies; blablabla; please use the report button if you believe this is a false positive and we will investigate.” The last one was some kind of parody image making fun of the warning.

    Most of them were some kind of romantic roleplay with bad spelling. One was like, “i run my hand down your arm and kiss you”, and the bots response triggered the warning. Another one was like, “*is slapped in the face* it’s okay, I still love you” and the rest of the message generated a warning. There wasn’t enough context for that one, so the person might have been writing it playfully (?), but that subreddit has a lot of blatant sexual violence regardless.

  • hrrrngh@awful.systemstoTechTakes@awful.systems•taking a peek at a subreddit for lovers of ai artEnglish
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    9 months ago

    This is hilarious, thank you for digging this up. I love how they’re just co-opting completely wrong words (wow, why does that sound familiar?) like “anti” and “fundamentalist orthodox” to describe the people they don’t like

    There’s another one called “ArtistHate”, but I was surprised it’s actually a pro-artist subreddit.

    If you want another fun read, check out Adobe’s ‘Stock Contributors’ AI artist forum. I found it by accident, and it’s full of people struggling so, so hard to understand why their puppy photos with missing limbs or physically impossible landscapes aren’t accepted. Any time someone “asks for clarification” on the submission rules I swear you can tell what the issue is at a glance but they’re stumped over it.

    Like, what is this person even trying to do??? Why do people feel the need to regurgitate responses from ChatGPT for no reason. Why are they even submitting AI art to Adobe Stock at all. Are they even getting paid? These are the same people who like those photos of snowboarding babies and have to reply “thank you” to every post on their Facebook feed because they think it was personally sent to them.

  • hrrrngh@awful.systemstoTechTakes@awful.systems•Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending Sunday 28 July 2024English
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    9 months ago

    I think some people are from hell

    Here is the worst thing I didn’t have to read today from a transhumanist:

    Yes but laws are often outpaced, presumably having your dog walk in and say he liked it is a pretty good reason to have your bestiality charge thrown out and perhaps move on to the discrimination countersuit.

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    Also this may have historic reasons, as the first futa was drawn centuries ago, long before the technology that enabled transgenderism, with breasts being the key difference.

    Bonus round:

    spoiler

    What percentage of homeless people do you think would be worthwhile having as slaves? Many of them are broken people who can’t reasonably support themselves in their current state, nor do anything to fix it.

    This is vaguely similar to my idea for how to fix homelessness, build a community for them on a large scale, either state or national, where property is cheap and low skill jobs are abundant. Then you build a prison there, and everyone guilty of a ‘crime of homelessness’ such as trespassing, illegal camping, stealing food, etc. Then they get put in jail for a few days, probably put through some level of rehab, given basic medical care, and eventually a job for the massive debt they’ve just wracked up. What work it would be is the hard question, but the benefits to everyone else would pay for them to dig holes to fill back in if needed. Maybe have them sort recycling or something.

  • hrrrngh@awful.systemstoSneerClub@awful.systems•That tracing woodgrains peice on David Gerard is outEnglish
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    10 months ago

    I’ve seen people say that /uj is essential to keeping communities healthy. If you only allow ‘reasonable discussion’, you allow all kinds of awful people in as long as they’re not too obvious, while regular people get reprimanded for responding to it. But if you only allow shitposting and no genuine discussion, it’s going to become genuine whether you want it to or not (see: Gamers Rise Up or similar)

    On here, you can see people write earnestly on a bunch of different topics, but you can also see them just tell a promptfan “you can’t get it up unless the fingers are wrong, can you” and ban them. It’s great