• Duamerthrax@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Those games would have been shit with more… traditional characters as well.

    It’s like with comic books. The writing has never been great, but incels only had a problem with it when they can’t self insert into a power fantasy.

    I recently learned there’s at least one writer who has worked on both Halo 5 and Forspoken. A lot of people have issues with the writing quality of Halo 5. One issue I personally have is how many scenes don’t really start or end. The scenes often open with the conversations already having started and don’t seem to conclude by the time it ends. The lines I’ve heard of Forspoken are also awkward, but there’s way more vitriol for Forspoken. Now why could there be so much more negative attention for that game?

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      It’s like with comic books. The writing has never been great, but incels only had a problem with it when they can’t self insert into a power fantasy.

      The writing was great if you’re into comic books, also self insertion in power fantasies is the purpose in these comic books. Complaining about this is like complaining about gambling at a casino.

      The lines I’ve heard of Forspoken are also awkward, but there’s way more vitriol for Forspoken. Now why could there be so much more negative attention for that game?

      The difference between halo 5 and forspoken is that the main protagonist in halo 5 isn’t insufferable. Of course people aren’t going to like the game if they can’t relate with the main protagonist. Forspoken seemed to target an audience that doesn’t exist in the video game industry or at least is very underrepresented, so you’re going to have mostly incompatible players trying it and disliking it. On top of that the protagonist is so full of herself it pisses off players who aren’t this core demographic (that probably don’t play video games to begin with).

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          I don’t read comic books, but I can assure you that hardcore fans will think the writing is great. The fact that there are hardcore fans to begin with is proof of that.

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            Proof of fans isn’t proof of quality.

            Honestly, the biggest condemnation of comic books I have is meeting comic book fans.

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              Proof of fans is absolutely proof of quality. Quality is not universal. I think jazz is total garbage, but there are a lot of people who love jazz. Jazz absolutely has quality too.

              Honestly the mindset you’re displaying here is the same kind that “normies” have had about gamers, comic fans, sci-fi fans, and anime fans since the early 80s. I feel like this is just modern era “nerd shaming”.

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            Popularity has never had anything to do with quality. Popularity is more related to marketing that anything