• parpol@programming.dev
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    5 months ago

    It is open source so not really a corporation’s product.

    They just maintain it, and the moment they screw up, a fork will take over from there.

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      Chromium (Google Chrome’s base) is also open source.

      And yet, we’re still at a corporation’s mercy as to whether everything Chromium-based gets ruined by Google’s fuck-what-the-users-want policies. Like with Manifest V3. And JXL support. And extensions on mobile.

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        You can easily branch off from before manifest v3, and some browsers do. The problem with manifest v3 is that most users do not care. But let’s say chromium loses its ability to use tabs, you can bet it gets rolled back before it reaches news media.

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          Users don’t know what the fuck Manifest is period. They just click the internet button. And for the longest time that meant the E with a loop around it. Now that means the multicolored circle.

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            Users know that they want more security. MV3 makes a major of users that use Chrome safer from malicious extensions.

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              I get what you’re saying, but the average person has no idea what it is, why they should care, or anything about it. All they see is Google making their extensions stop working. And when that includes some of the most popular extensions, that directly affect Googles revenue, they’re going to think that’s the reason.

              The overwhelming majority of users get their extensions from the Chrome Web Store… Which Google has full control over. Users expect them to be blocking almost all malicious extensions before they’re even available to download.

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                This. Google is pushing MV3 to single out and neuter the more robust and customizable ad blockers, like uBO. They’re trying to appease their advertising investors by force feeding ads to you and they’re plugging the leaks/workarounds savvy developers have created to block them.

                If Firefox ever gets popular enough, what do you wanna bet money bags Google, their primary monetary contributor, will put a condition on the next round of funding that they stop support for MV2?

                Stay small and crazy customizable Firefox.

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            Because it makes a majority of users that use Chrome much safer. Do you do any basic research? Do you need me to point you to the getting started guide?

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              It doesn’t though. An adblocker is your VERY most important tool in a good security posture. Googles playing any users who ask for MV3 for fools

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                The average user is and always will be an ignorant and careless user. And they are the majority. As in over 50%

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          the minority of people complaining about it are the only ones who know what it even is

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      So is Android. So is Chromium. So is React, and Flutter. So is Java.

      Open source doesn’t mean FOSS.

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        These are maintained by corporations, but for every screw up, there are superior forks maintained by someone else.

        The best forks of android are degoogled forks. The best forks of chromium are degoogled forks.

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        Open source does mean FOSS. It doesn’t mean community-oriented.

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          No it doesn’t. Different licenses dictate what you can and can’t do with open source software. Some are more restrictive than others. Open source simply means that the source code is freely available.