“The room was silent. It was like you could hear a needle drop as they spoke,” Naftali told The Post following Rachel Goldberg-Polin and Jon Polin’s speech at the DNC. “It was stunning.”

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    You mean Hamas.

    Fathi Hammad: The first is the cleansing of Palestine of the filth of the Jews.

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        Would you tell the leader of your country to surrender to the terms of a Jihadist terror organizations and relasese hunderds of murderers?

        What whould you prefer: USA, UK, USSR defeat Nazi Germany or surrender to their terms?

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            I did read the elements that were publicly published, yes.

            • Release of hundreds of murderers out of prison without getting all the live hostages.
            • The war ends (without Hamas losing power).

            etc.

            It doesn’t matter who organized the discussions, Hamas has no right to exist and it must be defeated.

            The war in Gaza could end tomorrow if Hamas surrenders, disarms and returns all the hostages.

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              Sooo, what you’re saying is, Palestine should fully resign and do whatever Israel wants, get nothing, and be okay with that, but Israel should get everything it wants, and keep encroaching on West Bank territory with zero resistance, AND the Palestinians should be okay with that?

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                • Hamas must surrender.
                • The Palestinian terrorists should be disarmed.
                • All Israeli (Jews and Arabs) hostages in Gaza should be released immediately and unconditionally.

                That’s what I’m saying. I don’t agree with your interpretation of my position, I never said that.

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                  But that’s not going to happen unless Israel gives something up and stops doing what they’re doing. You understand how this works, right?

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                    I refuse to accept your appeasement attitude. Israel sends its troops (Jews, Arabs, Druze) to the battlefield to fight a just war. Human life is put at risk to achieve the goals of the war.
                    Just as the allies fought Nazi Germany and lost millions of troops and civilians.

                    If there’s a hostage deal, it should serve the interests of Israel, not the interests of the terrorists of Hamas, PIJ, Fatah, PFLP etc.
                    A deal which servers the interests of Hamas-ISIS means surrender. A permanent ceasefire where Hamas stays in power means surrender. Not getting all the live Israeli hostages means surrender. Israel withdrawing from strategic areas means surrender.

                    The war in Gaza could end tomorrow if Hamas surrenders, disarms and returns all the hostages.