• ben@lemmy.zip
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    The democrats lost because they don’t completely align on some of my favourite issues, it has nothing to do with how people felt about the state of the economy or a lack of focus on certain demographics.

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      Very true; people should not be making decisions on silly inconsequential little things like a genocide.

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        Note the “completely align”, if you care about the conflict in Israel and the Gaza strip then the worst decision you could make is allowing Trump to win and give Netanyahu free reign to do whatever he wants.

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          Netanyahu is already doing whatever he wants and you’re doing apologetics for genocide. The current Biden administration is complicit in genocide and no amount of crystal ball gazing is gonna change that. Israel is currently doing everything they ever dreamed of doing. All the libs claiming Trump will get Israel to nuke Gaza are absolutely absurd. They’re no going to nuke land they want to steal and settle, are they?

          I’m sick of this shit. The two Amerikkkan parties are identical on foreign policy

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            Oh they are are they? Better let the dude explicitly in favor of Israel’s approach win over the woman who wasn’t mean enough to Israel I guess. And fuck all the other points, we’ve got standards.

            Man, idk if I’m mad or amused. You either don’t live in the US and your stance didn’t change anything, or you do and going by your pronouns you’re about to reap all the rewards.

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              smug liberal asshole fantasizes about me getting put in the trans camps because I recognize that both Amerikkkan parties are complicit in genocide. I don’t know where you’ve been, but Biden and Harris were shaking hands with Bibi just in July. The arms shipments haven’t ceased, no sanctions on Israel have been proposed, nothing is being done besides token efforts that fail on purpose.

              “wasn’t mean enough to Israel I guess” Is it so much to ask that someone not complicit in genocide be the president? How about this, if the Democrats are so open and willing in their genocide of Palestinians, what hope does that hold for people like me? How can I trust any of you liberals? “Oh, we’ll bomb Palestinian women and children, but don’t worry you trans and gay folk, you’re fine.”

              Yeah ok, except I remember the “first they came for the communists” poem and it’s certainly correct about both of our stupid bloodthirsty parties. I’m old enough to have protested against the Iraq War and I’ve personally watched how current Democrats have simply become the Republicans. Harris fucking accepted an endorsement from Dick Cheney, one of the most evil bastards who ever lived. Slaughtered a million plus Iraqis. And yet here you are concocting a situation where only one side will put me in camps or whatever because I recognize the simple reality that the Demokkkrats and Republikkkans are both explicitly genocidal against my Palestinian comrades

              why are you people like this, you people never learn anything. Fuck off. The Dead Kennedys were right about everything.

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                So you recognize the danger you’re putting yourself in by insisting you’d rather have nothing than only a little? That’s what I’m getting out of this frothing mess of a comment.

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                  I recognize that neither electoral party has anything to offer me, especially if both of them are complicit in genocide. Both sides have nothing. Both are equally dangerous. I’m not going to trust any promises that they make. Did I put it in civil enough terms for you, liberal?

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                  This “frothing mess of a comment”? LOL, it was clear, coherent, consistent, well written, and it took you to task on how slimey and ignorant not to mention hypocritical you are, so you call it a “frothing mess.” I wonder who is really rage-cry and frothingfash here.

                  But no surprise the only thing you’re “getting out of it” isn’t something she even implied.

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              Love how you settler sons of dogs drop the masks as soon as you feel you’ve been shown insufficient loyalty. I cannot wait for you to live in the Amerika I was born into, you smug cracker fuck. I want to watch you bleed.

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                Sorry to disappoint but I’m only gonna benefit from official Republican policies, so… thanks? I guess? Was just trying to help you non-wealthy non-crackers.

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          Even if every single leftist voted for Kamala, she would still lose; there aren’t enough leftists in this country to restore that blue wall.

          She lost because of the genocide and alienating her base while trying to become a diet republican.

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          1. it’s a genocide not a conflict. You are engaging in genocide denialism. Imagine someone calling the Holocaust a “conflict in Germany”…

          2. Netanyahu has already had free reign under Biden. Every single “red line” of Bidens was crossed by Netanyahu and later normalized by the Biden administration.

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        Will this result make that better?

        No, seriously. If that’s the biggest issue, to the exclusion of all others - does this event make it better, or worse?

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          harris’ words said that she was trying to help, but her actions say otherwise; so it’s the same result either way.

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            Okay great, so the problem was unavoidable, in this decision. It made no difference. Why the fuck should we have that problem, and also outright fascism?

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              i make no distinction between facist and facist-enablers. nevertheless, lemmy convinced me to find someone to vote swap with and i did in nevada.

              the american people chose facism; so go ask them.

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      lack of focus on certain demographics

      There was no “lack of focus” lmao. They focused very hard on telling every demographic that matters to go fuck themselves in different ways. Arabs were told genocide is good, Latinos were told immigration is bad, and black people were told that if they wanted to not be poor, they should buy crypto and start a business.

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      We need Genocide Joe to commit Genocide to win the election

      Nobody should replace Skeletor Genocide Joe, he is the incumbent that is the bestest candidate

      Actually Kamala needs to run without holding primaries. It is too late now!

      Kamala must promise keep supporting Genocide, if she doesn’t she will lose

      Kamala needs Liz Cheney to win over voters.

      Actually the economy is bad so it does not matter what Democrats would have done