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    For fuck’s sake… imagine finding out your father, the richest man in the world, fought to only have to pay your mother less than $3000 a month in child support!

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      I think out of all the things I’ve heard about Elon Musk, this might be the thing that disgusts me the most.

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      Well, if he didn’t live there and have to pay so litttle, he woudln’t be the richest man in the world, would he?

      /s

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      For three kids. So 1k each.

      It’s not about the money. It’s about power. He needs her to need him, because no woman in their right mind would fuck with him without that dependency.

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      It’s like he’s taken a page out of Steve Jobs’ book but not gone as far to say the kid isn’t his at all

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      where $3k a month is literally a rounding error on the dickface’s net worth. I bet he spends $3k a month on rogain.

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      The issue is not that it’s to limit to less than 3k. It’s to have a limit at to begin with (California doesn’t have any, so it might cost him dozens or hundreds of thousands a month). Plus, maybe he’s got more chances to keep custody (shared) in Texas than California.

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        so it might cost him dozens or hundreds of thousands a month

        Oh no! The man worth hundreds of billions might have to pay far less than 1% of his wealth to his kids! They’re bleeding him dry, I tell you!

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          He wouldn’t be paying it to his kids though, but their mom.

          $3k in child support is more than most get, who said he hasn’t set up a trust fund for the kid when it grows up / isn’t giving it stocks / inheritance?

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            Because there’s no way he could possibly do both of those things.

            And he definitely should be paying lawyers to fight this in court. I’m sure his kids will really love to hear about that one day.

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              Again, the kid’s gonna have enough support to have a comfortable childhood, much more than the average child probably.

              This money is going to the mom, Musk might not want that, and I honestly think that the majority people would feel the same way in his place.

              Don’t get me wrong, Musk is a dumbass, but people around here get blinded by emotions and hatred towards him and don’t even try to think about the situation at all.

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                How would you like it if you heard that your dad, the richest man in the world, fought against paying child support for you because it would only go to your mother anyway?

                Do you think that would make you think highly of your dad?

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                  Depends entirely on the circumstances.

                  Did I have a nice childhood? Did I get to go to all the clubs I wanted to go to? Did I get the education I wanted?

                  In my opinion, having too much money is harmful for a child, best to keep it in a fund for college / a downpayment.

                  3k a month is enough.

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                And the money he saves, it’s going to go to the kids then? He’s the gooniest dragon, hoarding all his precious gold and 360-no-scoping the most 13-year-old-edgelord takes he can to impress the people he actually cares about, the worst people in America and around the world.

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      Imagine spending $100/day solely on your child. This is a crazy amount of money already, why is everyone upset?

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        Oh, you must be unaware of who this is. He is (or was, we’ll see after his Xitter debacle) actually one of the richest men on the planet, and despite being able to pay thousands a day solely on his own child without even noticing, he’s going to great lengths to avoid paying more than the absolute bare minimum for his own child.

        Hope that clears it up.

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          The mother still pays and is very capable of providing. 3k is not the bare minimum when it’s, by decree, the maximum allowed by the state.

          It’s not because you can spend that you should and want to spend your money (I could spend more than I do, I prefer keeping some for emergencies and special projects and investments.

          Texas has a child support limit, but it might not be the only reason he wants to do it the, he might have more chance to keep custody there over California.

          People keep downvoting anyone who is not against Elon Musk, no need to be supportive of him, just simply stating that some arguments against him might be wrong is enough to get downvoted to hell.
          This is just Reddit all over again.

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          In what world is $2700/month “the absolute bare minimum” for a child? What amount seems reasonable to support a small child?

          Or, more to the point, why is everyone pretending that’s not an outrageous amount?

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            Because it’s not an outrageous amount if you are one of the richest people on earth. It’s all relative.

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            The same world that produced the USDA Expenditures on Children by Families Consumer Expenditure Survey results, in which that amount is similar to other numbers. The US government may or may not have artificially inflated these numbers for intrinsic benefits. Depending on how you slice the numbers or what variables in that child’s life are at play, a child can easily cost more than $2700 a month, but millions of families also raise multiple children simultaneously on less money than that. In the same world where rent prices on 1-2 bedroom places can start upwards from $1500/month, what values do make sense? The answer to that depends on whether we’re talking about Musk or actual people.

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        And on California rent… child support doesn’t need to go directly to your child, groceries and rent/utilities are also considered a valid use

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    For the love of god, can we stop treating everything he does like it’s news? Let him be a shitty person in some dark corner, don’t feed his ego by putting him in headlines.

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      Hard disagree. It would be one thing if he was just off in his corner by himself being a terrible person, but he’s very much always in the limelight and has a whole cult of personality worshipping the ground he walks on. We need articles like this as a counter to all the ass-kissing going on.

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        The cult of personality thing is the big part IMO. If it was just him being a piece of shit without any influence, then whatever. But he has a cult following that are influenced by him and his actions (plus Twitter seems now designed to push his thoughts). It’s important that the vast majority of people understand that Musk is an idiot and a piece of shit. It needs to be lame and gross to like him.

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        He’s always in the limelight because of these “news” articles, not in spite of them. Can we not collectively decide to ignore him and let him die in irrelevance?

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          No, because that is not and will never be reasonably possible. He will CREATE the news coverage if you dont throw shade

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      I really don’t understand this constant complaint that comes up whenever a news story about Musk is posted. Of course it is newsworthy that the (once) richest man on Earth is doing this, and providing news about what these billionaire oligarchs are up to is definitely part of a relevant newsfeed.

      Keeping their actions in the dark only helps normalising their existence and behaviour.

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      It’s not a bad thing that more people realize that he’s not actually a super genius that’s trying to save teh world, but a giant piece of shit. If you don’t like reading about what a shit head he is make a filter or something.

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        He’s also super-effective at dismissing the notion that billionaires earned what they have, and the concept of meritocraty under capitalism - he’s clearly far too stupid to be worthy.

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      To be honest, I find his limitless villainy fascinating and it’s hard to look away. It’s like watching a slow motion Tesla crash

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    just to clarify, is this the kid he used a random password generator to name?

    Fuck musk.

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      Fuck musk.

      Do you want him to have even more kids? 'Cause that’s how he gets even more kids!

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        Nah, most of (all?) his kids seem to be ivf babies. It’s either down to his need to have perfect embryos to choose from a bunch or he hates sex or he’s ruined by porn or some combination of the three.

        Honestly, I think that’s part of which he has taken his one kid being trans so badly. He chose their gender for them before they were even implanted. How dare they try to change after he made the decision.

        Deranged behavior either way.

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        I thought he artificially inseminated in order to get his kids for some reason.

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        well, there are ways to do so so, without the risk of children. I’m more concerned he might like it.

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        Not if you bend him over like the bitch he is and fuck him up the ass with a secondhand Soviet ICBM.

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    Downvote Musk spam.

    The billionaire doesn’t need your help ensuring him and his businesses stay in the 24 hour news cycle. Don’t be a useful idiot.

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      I agree, downvote and move on. First I would like to state, People need to realize the only thing a billionaire wants that they can’t buy is celebrity. He obviously wants to be front and center, don’t give him the attention .

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        I’m sorry, but this simply is not true. You can absolutely, 100%, easily buy fame in America.

        Elon Musk is actually a perfect example of this. Remember when he bought Dave Chapelle and made him introduce him at the end of his set? Sure, he got booed, but he also made the news and nothing was ever going to stop that.

        You can also literally buy media companies, or spots in the media, and simply put yourself in the news.

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      I normally agree, but this seems like one of those cases where name and shame might actually get some results 🤷‍♂️

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        He has been “shamed” by news articles every single day for the past how many years? It’s not working. Downvote his bullshit.

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    Musk is a scumbag from the get-go.

    If he didn’t want to support his kids he never should have had any.

    Wearing a condom isn’t that hard to do.

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      He’s a giant selfish piece of shit with a messiah/god complex who was born on third with Hank Aaron at bat, any sane society would’ve dropped him into the deep wilderness with a bindle a decade ago. I hope he takes up submarining

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        Between the space travel and brain implants, his own companies have plenty of good options besides submarining.

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          Unfortunately I think he’s too much of a coward to go first on any of those himself, probably for my suggestion too, I hope he proves me wrong with the brain implants and then something doesn’t go terribly wrong with the inputs to the pain centers of his brain

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      Iirc he believes that it’s his duty to procreate and produce as many white people as possible to prevent replacement.

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        And yet he’s too lazy to give his “awesome Aryan super race” kids half decent names. And even his Dad was a technocrat nazi who despised the peasants. The gene pool behind this fucker should have been laid to waste a long time ago. Absolute parasite.

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        The replacement part is bullshit made up to hate.

        He thinks EVERYONE needs to have more kids as the world is going to run into major problems with population decline, like is happening In Japan if trends continue.

        I don’t agree with him, but he is advocating for everyone, not white people.

        Edit: and he has talked about this many times, it’s not new.

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          I don’t understand the fear of population decline. We grow and grow until…?

          Less people is better for the planet. But less people means not enough people to support the layer of pyramid above it.

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            But less people means not enough people to support the layer of pyramid above it.

            That’s it isn’t it?

            Who’s going to pay for those millions of vacant apartments, and who’s going to support the elderly if there’s not enough people?

            Like it or not, there will be a disruption from it if its too sudden, but I don’t see it as the dire thing that he seems to think it is. It’ll eventually sort itself out and we’ll be better for it.

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              We can’t grow forever. We’ve already made irreversible damage to the planet. Disruption to human comfort is nothing compared to the species and lands that are now forever extinct.

              (I’m not sure if we’re on the same page. I read your message two ways)

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                I agree, we can’t grow forever, I just also think there will be consequences to a declining population, but thats okay, and we’ll get through it. The more gradual we can decline the smoother it’ll be.

                Continuing our growth would just be worse in the end.

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                  What consequences do you see? I don’t see anything difficult to overcome. What big picture am I not seeing that you’re talking about?

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                  With the way some country leaders talk about using nuclear weapons these days (Russia and now Israel), it won’t be a gradual decline in world population but a rapid one.

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      Its even crazier than that.

      With his first wife, their first child died of sides and they actively used IVF. They then had a set of twins and a set of triplets (I’m assuming they were all via IVF, but I’m not sure). One of those children is the estranged trans person who changed their last name.

      His two children with Grimes (including the one this article is about) were via surrogate.

      He’s not just refusing to wear a condom. He’s a lively spending thousands of dollars, and women are undergoing surgery, in order to have children for him to neglect. It’s bizarre.

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        I’m convinced that it’s some transhumanist scheme to download his consciousness into one of his brood via the Neuralink bullshit.

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        He’s had more since …

        Twins with Neuralink director of operations and special projects Shivon Zilis in November 2021.

        A third child with Grimes, named Techno Mechanicus, according to a book review published by the New York Times on Sept. 9, 2023.

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          Oh thank you. I was not including the naturally conceived children. But I see now that this article is about Techno Mechanics, whose details are less publicly available.

          Although if Grimes has been pregnant in public I’m sure some gossip magazines would have reported on it.

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      Or else what?

      What consequences does he face other than people on the internet calling him mean names?

      Morals are for poor people. They’re the only ones who suffer consequences for not having them.

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    Reminder. He’s a billionaire.

    $2760 a month is about $33,120 a year.

    According to this calculation, he makes $46,303,000 A DAY.

    For context:

    At $33,120 a year, he could fund 1,398 child support babies with a single day of work.

    And there are Elon-stans.

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      Small reminder that Elon Musk doesn’t have that money in his bank account.

      The only reason why his net worth is that high is because he has stock in the stupidly overinflated (and now quickly deflating) Tesla.

      He had to pull loads of stock from tesla to buy twitter (after he was forced to do so by courts because he said he would) and still had to borrow money because he simply doesn’t have 44 billion. Quick side note: payments with interest for those loans are due, good luck paying those billions from a company that lost.over half its value, asshole!

      If he pulls all his tesla stock then telsa would completely crash, he’ll never get access to anything near 166 billion.

      I’m sure he has a few millions in liquid assets, but he is VERY far from making millions per day. The way he’s going right now, his ex wife better hurry because he’ll be bankrupt within a few years.

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        His Money in the Bank Account and his Net Worth are 2 different Pairs of Shoe but Elon takes a Credit for Multiple Millions (cheaper than having a Wage) and then giving them Stocks as Security.

        He totally can afford to have his Child getting more than 33k in a Year.

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    Walzer said Musk and Grimes could spend months just trying to prove which state the kids actually lived in.

    That’s putting it lightly. Parental disputes that cross state lines is some of the messiest shit one can go through. Just ooof. Dude probably thinks evaporating $44B on Twitter was rough, he’s just getting started on this shit.

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    After watching his management skills in business, I suspect his being a father isn’t a great thing for his kids.