Swedish authorities say they have detected a Chinese ship moving near two telecoms cables that failed within hours of each other on the Baltic Sea bed in recent days.
Prosecutors in Stockholm have launched a preliminary investigation into suspected sabotage, hours after Germany dubbed the cable failure part of a “hybrid operation”.
On Sunday morning at about 10am, Swedish authorities registered problems with a data cable under the Baltic Sea from the Öland island to Lithuania. At 4am on Monday, telecoms operators in Finland and Germany reported problems with another cable called C-Lion-1.
Both cables were damaged in the Swedish economic zone, prompting prosecutors in Stockholm to take the investigation lead.
Lemmy.ml users incoming to tell me how that’s actually the EU’s fault
ever since i started using lemmy all I’ve heard is bad things about that instance so I don’t understand why we don’t just defederate from them? This is a genuine question to anyone with the answer, thanks!
@ashley0_0@lemmy.blahaj.zone This puzzles me, too. That instance is a cheap propaganda instance that has been banned by Reddit some time ago for a good reason. I don’t know why we don’t defederate.
It’s the instance admined by the authors of Lemmy itself. The official forum is !lemmy@lemmy.ml. It’s a bit disingenuous to ask to defederate from them, unless we want the already tense relationship with the authors of the software to break entirely.
Well Lemmy is open source, isn’t it? So someone could just make a fork of it, can’t they?
Of course they could but that’s not free. Forked projects are a lot of work. Maybe it would be easier to go for a different software, such as kbin. Or maybe the defederation goes over just fine and arrangements are found easily. I don’t know. My point is there’s a social component to defederating that’s likely a bit bigger than just shutting out Russia/China enjoyers.
My point is there’s a social component to defederating that’s likely a bit bigger than just shutting out Russia/China enjoyers.
I have to disagree. It’s not just this community’s “West bad, Russia/China bad okay” hypocrisy and the fact that they convey their narrative and their narrative only (everything else gets immediately blocked, while they accuse others literally of ‘double standards’). One of my main points is that they support Russia’s war in Ukraine, which is a genocide. It’s the only community that openly supports an attempted genocide.
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That’s a response to an argument I was not making. I share your non-enthusiasm about .ml.
I was talking about the social cost of locking out the creators of Lemmy. It’s reasonable to argue that that social cost is worth bearing. But it’s imo unreasonable to pretend it doesn’t exist.
However, I would caution that .ml is the standard instance that many people start out at, because that’s the site promoted from Lemmy’s GitHub and from join-lemmy:org. There are reasonable people caught among the unreasonable ones.
I’d object to [.ml] being the “only community that supports an attempted genocide” [emphasis mine], for two reasons:
- The Grad and Bear instances also exist and are more consistently pro-Russian. They are already defederated from e.g. feddit.org, precisely because there is no social cost associated with defederating them.
- I find it hard to accept this stance of absolute moral superiority. What the Russian government inflicts on Ukraine is atrocious but not entirely unparalleled.
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Oh no… Russia has dragged China in WW3, hasn’t it?
More like the EU is more likely to be hard on China in the starting trade war.
Lol, the EU can’t produce shit. Without China, it dies.
China did this same shit well before Russia brought them into the war.
Where?
There was a pipeline damaged last year under circumstances that seemed to be challenging to rule as accidental. China claimed responsibility, but claimed it wasn’t intentional, but it seems they ignored all communication attempts made to the ship and that the amount of time they dragged anchor along the seabed would have been impossible to not notice.
