• Lauchs@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    9
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    8 days ago

    when it’s literally the truth and public record lol

    It ain’t and that’s the crux of the lawsuit. Stephanopolous said trump had been liable for rape when in reality he’d been found liable for sexual assault. Rape is a different charge.

    It’s a subtle difference but it is one a veteran journalist would be expected to know, which is why the bar of him acting “with a reckless disregard for the truth” wouldn’t be unthinkable.

    Morally, yeah, I’m with you. But legally, ABC was on dicey ground. Maybe could win but damn, that’d be a battle. Stephanopolous would have to, in court, claim he didn’t understand the difference between the charges which isn’t a great look for an anchor.

    • Optional@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      7 days ago

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/

      Judge clarifies: Yes, Trump was found to have raped E. Jean Carroll

      Archive

      “The finding that Ms. Carroll failed to prove that she was ‘raped’ within the meaning of the New York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr. Trump ‘raped’ her as many people commonly understand the word ‘rape,’ ” Kaplan wrote.

      He added: “Indeed, as the evidence at trial recounted below makes clear, the jury found that Mr. Trump in fact did exactly that.”

      • Lauchs@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        7 days ago

        Exactly, the key bit being "Ms Carroll failed to prove that she was ‘raped’ within the meaning of the New York Penal Law

        In other words, even though he wasn’t found liable for rape, she was raped as the word is commonly understood. Unfortunately, Stephanopolous made the claim (repeatedly I believe) that trump had been found liable for rape.

    • pyre@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      9
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      8 days ago

      I thought the judge specifically said it was rape, despite the wording of the crime. that’s like saying they used the word “stole” when the public record says “embezzlement”. hardly an argument.

      • nzeayn@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        4
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        8 days ago

        a difference between rape and sexual assult is an argument designed into the system. not because theres an actual difference in the crime. because theres a difference between who each charge will be applied to. just like theft vs embezzlement.