• fox2263@lemmy.world
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    4 hours ago

    You don’t even have to investigate the science or anything. Just use your own brain and eyeballs.

    I was looking at old family photos of when I was a child, under 10. It was snowing on Christmas Day. On multiple christmases.

    I can’t even remember a time in the last 2 to 3 decades it’s snowed correctly in winter let alone December and bang on Christmas. Sometimes it snows in may.

    Also when we keep getting record setting heatwaves in summer… hello?

    The cult of do your own research managing to not do their own research in the slightest.

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      Just use your own brain and eyeballs.

      When I was coming up learning about the long slow path of climate change, it was “We have to act now, because by the time you can readily see the effects with your eyes, we’ll be fucked cause it’ll be too late by then.”

      Whelp here we are. All we can do now is mitigate the damage however we can.

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        3 hours ago

        Such a shame.

        Back in the 90s the though of the ozone hole in Australia being fixed seemed an impossibility to me but then it was solved with governments agreeing to ban CFCs etc

        I thought perhaps we could fix the change in climate.

        But then social media was birthed and destroy the minds of everyone starting the slow decline of society. Those with power able to utilise it for their own bidding. Putin et al.

        Now the greedy are in such a position to ruin everything for short term gains.

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      Just use your own brain and eyeballs.

      We’re going to need something a bit more robust than that I’m afraid. People who fall for conspiracy after conspiracy are using their own brain and eyeballs. Even schizophrenics use their own brain and eyeballs.

      If someone’s childhood photos show snow-free Christmases, is that enough for them to declare climate change a hoax?

      People need to understand the scientific method better. What a hypothesis is, the importance of falsifiability. There is no truth in the universe, you can’t determine what is true and what is false by looking inside yourself, or by trusting your gut. There is no truth. That is the universe we live in.

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        3 hours ago

        What I meant was people don’t even have to “believe” that science is a thing and climate change is a possibility or not. It just is.

        By remembering back before there was multiple fires and storms per year.

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    The science of how carbon dioxide in the air helps trap heat isn’t hard to understand or show in a small scale experiment.

    It’s then not hard to understand how if it’s trapping heat, then things will get warmer overall and overall warmer things lead to things like ice melting.

    It gets way more complex trying to model things like ice melt impacting ocean currents, but the basic understanding isn’t hard at all.

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      I fully agree with all of that but I don’t think that basic understanding is even important.

      I go to the doctor when my body needs help. She spent years learning about how my body works and I trust her. Sure I do my own basic investigation first, but she has a holistic view and niche knowledge that I can never hope to compete with.

      Climate scientists are saying that we’re destroying the careful balance? Righto. You know better than I do.

      Also what’s the worst case scenario if they’re wrong? I get my energy from a source that is solar panels on my roof or some company that isn’t BP doing massive oil spills for pennies on the dollar or whatever and my country is energy secure?

      OK then. Sounds good to me. 👍

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    6 hours ago

    “Even though you don’t understand the science”

    I think that says so much more than any of the other garbage that spills out of his mouth

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      People that say “you don’t understand science” is like saying they don’t understand how science comes to its conclusions. It’s not political. It’s not personal. It’s what is found with an experiment. And then repeated.

      The person doing those has motivations and personal stuff. Everyone does. To say someone manipulated the results based on that and everyone else that repeated the same damn method is baffling.

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        Trump said “I don’t think even Science knows” as if science is some institution or singular entity. They seriously think there some Big Science organization

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    7 hours ago

    This is thing about these idiot podcasters … they are our modern day snake oil salesmen and religious evangelists on a soap box in the town square. They know how to talk, how to manage a crowd and how to direct, misdirect or massage people’s modes. They have no affiliations other than making money or separating the masses from their money. They’re salesmen that will say anything to keep your attention because it’s your attention that makes them money.

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    Argument is that if you are not a scientist, you are “stupid/gullible” to believe in science. Greenhouse gases impact on temperature is as certain as gravity, and a spherical earth. Actual greenhouses can be warmed with CO2.

    Forest fire management is something that requires more resources whether or not goal is to destroy human sustainability, or just adapt to our current warming. Insurance savings pay for it.

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    9 hours ago

    Oh Joe, you claiming anybody doesn’t understand the science is actually the funniest thing you may ever say.

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    6 hours ago

    Well Mel probably thinks it’s a Jewish conspiracy that his house burnt down or something. One too many shrimps on the barbie, eh?

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    9 hours ago

    it’s not as impactful when the “victim” can just pull out their wallet and buy a few more mansions anywhere on the planet

    that’s even without assuming they bought enough insurance to be covered 100%

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    Oh cause if its a hoax and we fix all the carbon issues and go to renewables all we did was make the work slightly better and reduce people electric bills.

    Carbon is hell mass in the Bible! 6 proton 6 neutron 6 electron! Don’t take it out the ground!