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    11 months ago

    I know. Most of the US is suburban and rural areas. That’s my point - that living in a city is more convenient.

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      11 months ago

      We’re talking about cities…

      83% of Americans live in urban areas. Maybe 10% of those have useable public transport. My city has a single train line and some buses that take roughly 4x longer to get where I’m going.

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        Public transportation is certainly an option in cities. Most suburbs I’ve been to at least have buses and ride share. Still, “most of the US” is rural and sprawling suburbs that do not have these options. If more people lived and worked in and near cities, the public transportation would have more public funding for improvements. Thankfully, this administration is looking into some very exciting improvements in our rail systems and offering more funding for cities for their own improvements. Fingers crossed.

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            11 months ago

            I don’t know how people feel the need to lie about things like this.

            You’re telling me that in the United State of America, there are cities that exist that do not have buses or subways or trollies or taxis or Ubers or bike shares? Please, tell me which city has none of these options?

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              No one is lying. There are options and there are viable options. A bus route 30 miles away does nothing to help you.

              Ride shares are not public transportation. Bikes do no good if you don’t have bike lanes to safely ride them in.

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                Plus all too often, buses have been the neglected stepchild of public transit and at least have the reputation of dirty, smelly, broken, crime ridden. I don’t think that’s true for the most part but there’s a psychological part to deal with, in addition to investing enough to keep things in good running order

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                11 months ago

                WTF are you going on about? We’re talking about city bus routes to get you around town. Most bus routes are at most a ten minute walk. To claim that a city bus is 30 miles away is a verifiable lie. Do you not know what a city or a bus or a mile is?

                While technically true, car and bike share aren’t publicly managed, they are affordable forms of transportation available to the public that negate the need to have a vehicle in a city.

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                  11 months ago

                  To claim that a city bus is 30 miles away is a verifiable lie.

                  LOOOOLOLOL okay go ahead and “verify” that nowhere in America is 30 miles from a bus stop. I’ll wait.

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                    You’re doing a really poor job of using your words to communicate whatever it is that’s on your mind. Are you having a different conversation than the rest of us?

                    You responded to me when I said I don’t need a car in a city because of all the publicly available transportation. You said “That’s great that you have that but those options don’t exist in most of the US”.

                    I said my point was that living in a city is more convenient than most of the country which is not a city.

                    You said “We’re talking about cities…” then went on to claim without a source that “Maybe 10% of those have useable public transport”.

                    You doubled down and responded to “Public transportation is certainly an option in cities.” with “Not in US cities.”

                    And now you are claiming that there are cities where the closest bus stop is 30 miles away.

                    I don’t know if a 30 mile wide city is even a thing that exists anywhere in the country let alone the fact that what you’re claiming would likely mean the city is actually 61 miles wide for someone to be 30 miles from the nearest bus.

                    Perhaps if you could be more specific about the location you have in mind we could have an intelligent conversation.