Yes. I couldn’t date a hardcore anti-communist or something, because they would be inherently opposed to some of my fundamental beliefs. I don’t necessarily need to date someone that perfectly aligns with my politics either though, I am totally okay with dating a fellow traveler.
My partner is not exceptionally politically active and doesn’t really go into reading much theory. When it comes up we tend to agree on politics more than we don’t, but it isn’t something we really discuss a lot. She votes for our local communist party (which is more soc-dem for the most part but eh) more often than not, so that’s something.
i wouldn’t date a lib, but i’m dating an anarchist right now. as i talk to her more about stuff, i think once she works through some of her issues, she’ll come around to the ML side a bit more.
I may need to switch up strat lmao, last 2 girls I was with both became FBI or Homeland Security 👀🧐 edit: I will add that both were on mutual agreement, no hard feelings (LUCKILY!! Otherwise they might have just put me on a watchlist for being a dick, big ups to them, cool people but not my kinda people) and no grudges.
That sucks comrade. However, that would be a great bit for a comedy club though.
Lol it is what it is, they were cool to be with at the time and I was a basic Bernie Bro, time waits for nobody
When i first started dating my wife, she wasn’t really into politics. It turns out it was because her entire family has been involved with communists since the 1900s and my politics is normal in her family.
What a twist!? Was she a staunchly communist too?!
She is, but she very much is not a particularly focused one. Her education is in animals and environmental sciences, not political theory. It was very funny, though, because i remember having a conversation with her where i remember complaining about something (not exactly sure what, this was years ago), and she mentioned i sounded like her grandparents. I didn’t know what she meant, and then she showed some pictures from her family album. There must’ve been a hammer and sickle every three pictures.
Holy shit. That’s actually a good twist
I’m actually dating a non-ML. Why? Genuine love.
For some reason I managed to rizz her up.
It’s especially important to do so since turning political orgs into dating sites is the best way to fuck everything up. I would advise to actually never hit on people within an org especially if you’re male because sexism is already a big enough problem you don’t want to participate in making activism even more unbearable for women.
Definitely. I’m reminded of when Hakim (I think) was talking about Fidel Castro’s body count, and he stopped himself to be like “to be clear, you shouldn’t use communism as a dating strategy or try to hook up with a bunch of people in an org.”
I only date Posadists. They really dig my sex bunker covered in Soviet propaganda posters.
That sounds more like what a Hoxhist would be in to. A posadist would like dates to the beach, aquarium, or spooky field.
That sounds revisionist!!
Homie that bunker sounds tight AF.
It also has an overhead paging system set to play Bella Ciao on repeat, to set the mood.
Yes because I think I can radicalize any baby communist I’m dating.
“I can
fixradicalize them.”Not going to lie, that phrasing is a little yikes. A relationship shouldn’t be a radicalization project.
My partner was already a communist so I didn’t have to do much besides giving them Blackshirts and Reds lmao so it’s not that they’re my pet project that I’m singlehandedly “fixing/radicalizing” them so much as nudging them in the right direction.
Yeah, I’m sure it was normal and natural IRL
I disagree, every relationship is a radicalization project./hj Don’t be mean or obsessive, but we need as many comrades as we can get.
Maybe, but the way to do it isn’t through takes like this IMHO. I can only imagine liberals seeing comrades trying to do that the same as a far-right chud trying to evangelize about QAnon
yea because otherwise i would be alone
This is the only answer in the thread that’s based in actual reality.
Better alone than having to compromise who I am and could develop into if not for settlers trying to keep me mired in unearned exceptionalism, I figure.
Maybe realistic, but I’d argue that this thinking might lead to an unhappy relationship. If the only reason for dating someone is loneliness with disregard to how good they compliment you or generally their personality, then I would advocate for overthinking ones relationship.
I am married to someone that is ML or ML sympathetic. We don’t really proclaime to anyone we are ML unless we are talking to marxists but it has always been relevant to our politics. It’s not at all the totality of our politics because we are also interested in Indigenous perspectives and ML simply doesn’t engage with that enough in my opinion and experience. I like plural thinking more than getting fully caught up in a single tradition.
Anyway if I wasn’t married I would avoid getting caught up with SocDems at this point in my life. If someone can’t handle criticism of first worldist politics we are absolutely not compatible. But also I would be annoyed by an ML that can’t handle critical perspectives that come from Indigenous or place-based people. I would likely be more patient with a dogmatic ML than a SocDems tho.
Yes, but i only tolerate people that care about things around us. Solidarity is the main thing i look for in a partner.
Yes. My gf is not ML. Not outspoken at least, but she’s a member of our party and attends actions. She’s left wing but doesn’t have to be outspoken communist imo.
Wait, she is not ML, but is a communist party member?
One can be communist sympathetic, organized, and/or a different tendency without being ML.
Yup. But I think it’s because she sees what we do and agrees with it. She comes to our actions, helps me with setting up things and eventually decided to become a member because ‘she was already doing things anyway’. But you will not yet hear her say she’s a communist lol. It has too much of a stigma for her, but with the recent Palestina conflict I feel like she is radicalizing more and more.
I’ve got a new partner who’s not all that into politics, but she is definitely interested in learning more and knows something is wrong. That’s all I really look for.
Of course I would never ever date a Zionist, Nazi, American Conservative (why am I saying the same thing three times) or staunch capitalist, but that’s different than someone simply not being educated. If I like the person, I will engage with them romantically and then try to radicalize/share my passions with them. If they support it and join or at the very least aren’t against it and simply enable me to get involved, I’m fine with it.
Of course I’d prefer a baddie tankie gf but my partner will be developed into one, rn she just a baddie gf. Lmao sorry idk wtf that was but there’s me answer
Nope, and if that means I spend the rest of my life just having meaningless short-term physical flings, so be it. Amerikan liberalism, and the settlers who practice it, fuckin disgust me too much to ‘relation’ with for long.
So they are not disgusting enough to take away your desire to be physical with them, but disgusting enough to not want to be in a relationship with them. That is funny to me 🤣
I mean, I am human (much as that alone annoys me). A lot of it is I think I don’t ever want to be around someone full time who advocates for the genocides they see on their television again (especially not a settler who does), and that’s been happening to me a lot lately. Besides, it’s entirely unrealistic with what my bank account looks like for me to leave the country and actually find someone I could without reservation, without condition love like that. In Amerika, terms and conditions apply heavily.
So we make do with the lesser clay that we have to work with, even if it’ll never form a proper ceramic.
Honestly I don’t even have the means to meet people, let alone dating. I recently moved to a new state I’m unfamiliar with, with nothing around me that interests me enough to go out. Everything I wanna do I can just do at home, so I’m just kinda wallowing in loneliness
I’m also autistic so that comes with another entire set of problems 😕
Motivational, it helps if you orient your thinking not towards the activity itself but how the activity can facilitate meeting people. ime, at least
Oh yeah for sure, I just don’t have anything I actually like doing that facilitates that. I mostly smoke weed, play games, and make music, all of which I can do that at home.
I’m not really a multiplayer kinda person and don’t often play with others, (which is funny cause if someone asked me to play with them in something I would, even if I wasn’t really into it) so even amongst things I like I just tend to keep to myself.
I’m probably not really helping my own case but social media is toxic and I’ve been through a lot of trauma basically making it really difficult to interact with others, even when I really want to. I even have trouble interacting with comrades here, most times I just kinda lurk.
make music,
This is the one that seems like the best option in general. Can you find other musicians in your area?
I wouldn’t really know where to start, lol. I’m a music producer so everything I do is on my computer.
My friend, do you think there aren’t a ton of musicians out there who would kill to get a good producer? Guitarists who struggle to write drum parts? Skilled players who struggle to write anything decent? It totally depends on who happens to be around, but there’s a world of possibility out there for someone who loves production and is decent enough at it!
Yeah, it would be better if you could jam, but it’s not needed. Besides, if you use a midi controller, it’s a small step to keyboard, and getting better st playing will help your writing (and make it more fun, imo).
I can’t guarantee it’ll work out, but I also can’t stress enough that, based on what you have said, you’ve got a good shot.
I am sorry about your situation comrade, and wish that things get better for you 😊.
What made you move out of state?
Thanks, I appreciate it 🙏🏿
Had to escape an abusive situation and homelessness. It’s not even like the area I was living in was bad, just frustrating mainly cause of the paradox of being too expensive to live but too expensive to leave.