People say you come back. Reincarnation. Do you think so? Well, it doesn’t seem mathematically possible to me, man. Uh, 'course at one time what we had on the earth was six people, you know. I avoid “two” because it’s controversial but six… most people agree, “fuck, yeah, we had six at one time.” Six people, six souls… cool. They died, souls went back to the place; six new people souls- still six souls. Now we have four billion people… claiming to have souls. Someone is printing up souls… and it lowers their value, you know.
– George Carlin
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Bring me sugar water
Explains a lot about some people
But about the souls of all the bacteria 🦠
Maybe they get reincarnated into other bacteria?
No central nervous system, they probably don’t have souls.
The universe opposite to this is a worse place than this and contains googolplex souls wanting to get here.
There’s no particular reason to think souls and reincarnation would follow the normal flow of time. If you can be reincarnated in a different place from where you lived, why not a different time? Maybe you could be reincarnated as anyone who had ever lived, or anyone ever will live. Taken to the extreme, there could be just one soul and we’re all reincarnations of each other. It’s all woo, so why not?
Reminds me of the short story “The Egg” by Andy Weir (same guy who wrote The Martian and Project Hail Mary (which is an amazing book, btw)).
I recommend the egg. It’s a quick read.
Never seen double parentheses like that outside of algebraic expressions.
[Laughs in Scheme]
about a day
Well that’s generous
Nah. The 24 hour window is so all the rich, connected people can apply for some grandfathered exemption clause that’s not available to the rest of us.
Fuckers
Well they only operate in the “business day.” Which means after 5pm they’re more vulnerable and that’s when we must strike
I’d give it 11 minutes.
Way easier to lie about it. Just pick babies out to be indentured servants for life to repay some imagined debts. Maybe make them feel it was their fault for not paying off the debt previously. We could even target kids from poor families for this, so they have less hope of fighting back.
We did this already, a bunch of times.
Isn’t this just the caste system?
Any class system. Some are more rigid than others, but the goal is the same.
Yeah so it turns out you’re responsible for the things everyone in your group did in the past. And a lot of them died without paying their bills so that’s on you kid.
Hell yeah!
This is why reincarnation would come to be. It would then be spun in a way that would be beneficial for people. You can buy that house with a 250 year, 3 lives mortgage!
It is I the trillionaire eu keeps accruing wealth past his 250 lives.
2nd life into mortgage year one foreclosed because you couldn’t pay :'(
And the government would make sure you paid taxes for every dollar moving between incarnations.
Hey, you have paid taxes in your first life! The IRS department of past life tax recovery is awaiting your presence
It would be done at the same time the technology used to track reincarnation is announced.
Debt bondage is slavery, but it’s still a thing unfortunately.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debt_bondage
It’s the opposite of Jubilee, in that debts are literally forever, rather than released every seven years.
My first thought was Cruelty Squad tbh.
Yeah, but it could also fix some things regarding racism, sexism, ableism, trans issues, immigration, geographic disadvantages etc. Maybe climate change?
Optimistic of you to think people wouldn’t use it as an excuse to be even MORE discriminatory. There would be Ultra-Whites who could claim they were never non-white in the past X years, with seniority by how far back they can trace their reincarnated whiteness. And of course there would be new religions claiming that if you follow them you’ll be reincarnated into the race/environment of your choice.
Maybe. I just thought it was an interesting opportunity to put the “veil of ignorance” to the test.
Odds are you aren’t going to be reincarnated as a white person though. Seems like they would cut the shit out the first time they are reincarnated as something different.
Suicide would be an epidemic.
Everyone will reroll for better stats
Pretty sure that would result in negative karma, and thus the new reincarnated form would be even less desirable.
There was no indication that karma or any such system was included, you included that into the scenario and it is therefore invalid.
There would be people racing to get to the simplest organism incapable of sentience if there were a karmic system.
That’s what the basis of reincarnation is about though… karma. You do good deeds, your karma level goes up, you get a better reincarnated life in the future. Likewise, the opposite is true as well.
Karma is an aspect of the Hindu and Buddhist reincarnation beliefs. They do not have sole ownership of the concept of reincarnation.
If they had said “What if Hinduism is right and reincarnation is real?” then that would be a different scenario. They only put forth that the concept of reincarnation was real.
Ah I see what you mean now. Eh, regardless I’m sure the universe would have some sort of similar karmic system in place to prevent thatt suicidal loop hole.
There’s no secular reason to think that the universe would care, or that a universe capable of caring would see it as a problem.
The word “desirable” in the context of human-only reincarnation opens a whole other can of worms
Like what, a paramecium or baker’s yeast or something? At least I can’t have a collection agency coming after me then
Depends on what version of reincarnation we’re talking about.
Strange to see Zullie outside of the FromSoft space, but also, 100% accurate point.
Yeah. They make great videos and they turned out to have rad politics too. Neato.
“Where is this going. Debts? Companies? Did I miss some huge lore dump? Wait … are they talking about the lands outside?”
Lol @ me being reincarnated as a cat. I can’t pay bills sorry
They’d track you until you’re reincarnated into a paying body again.
And by “track” you mean they’d kill you over and over till you roll human.
Dont even remember past lives
Spent 178 years as various insects and sea creatures
Still owe $244’000 on a used honda civic rusting in a scrapyard in a completely different country
slavery genocide all the turtle down.
Making sure to add LCI, or lifetime compound interest.
And service charges related to tracking each reincarnation
Rich people would probably set something up so that their future incarnation inherits their wealth, since it’s statistically likely that they’d be reincarnated as someone poorer. I could also imagine a much stronger push to bring the birthrate up even at the cost of using unethical means to force it, because if the population decreases, there wouldn’t be enough children born for an increasingly large percentage to reincarnate into
Considering the Rich tend to control governments, this would result in shit like a ban on contraception and abortion, mayhaps legally requiring everyone have a minimum amount of children.
…do republicans know something we don’t?
Nah, they just want more low paid workers.
I just want to know that the Nauvoo is all about
.>Be me.
.>Reincarnate into a cow.
.>Moo. Moo moo moo.
.>Moo moo moo moo moo.
.>Moo
.>🐮
Companies: 🥩🥩🍔🍔💲💲
I’d just be happy that people like me. On a bun nonetheless. But a like is a like.
Does Lemmy have a happy cow community?
Your debt-ridden Reincarnation as a Cash Cow
(Why does my voice-to-text randomly capitalize words?)
bloons
Are you going to be a dairy cow? In order to produce milk, dairy cows are kept almost continually pregnant. Unwanted male calves are slaughtered in their first week of life so that their mothers’ milk can be harvested for human consumption.
I hate milk, but I love my other milk products like cheese, and yogurt.
I miss Altered Carbon. So much.
Too bad it was only one season long.
There were two seasons, but there were three books.
No, I distinctly remember there being only one season.
The second season had Idris Alba. I don’t know if you’re doing a bit like “There’s no season 9 of scrubs” but there’s definitely a season 2 of altered carbon and it slaps.
It was Anthony Mackie and it wasn’t good, at least not in comparison to the first season.
Shit, you’re right. I have no idea how I mixed those two up. And honestly I think it was a bit better personally, they went all out on budget and it was apparently the reason Netflix dropped them.
Random zullie the witch haha, they make good yt vids :)