I didn’t think these people were real until I had to explain to one very carefully that I do not have time nor the want to fuck with Arch and Ubuntu works for me when I was asking a simple display IT question on Reddit.
Personally use PopOS, I got a need to game, if I really wanna tinker it’s always there if I want to. But I need an entertainment OS for my living room not a pet project.
PopOS gaming was a shit show for me, steam wouldn’t work and installing non free drivers borked my system like it was Ubuntu 12.04. I honestly don’t have any idea what PopOS does that others don’t for gaming, steam/wine/lutris/bottles are distribution agnostic. I’ve only ever heard people say PopOS for gaming but never seen anything showing why it’s better.
Full disclosure this was a while ago and I’ve gone separate ways with Debian and derivatives for now.
What PopOS’ did different was not any of the software you mentioned. It was proprietary NVIDIA drivers. They shipped them with the ISO and put it front and center.
Sounds like something you might say if you hadn’t used Arch to daily drive? I’m about to hop off Lemmy and play some ff7 remake which cost me exactly no effort to install. Maybe arch used to be hard, but I’ve yet to see it and I built from minimal install. Meta packages yo.
Yeah, I need more of an all 'rounder, but Linux choice is all about use cases. Ubuntu is just so bog standard I can set it and forget it for most things and I appreciate that.
I mean, currently I’m having less trouble using Arch to game than I was with anything else. I think the big thing is that Aech has a rapid release of updates, and the Steamdeck is based on Arch.
If you want those benefits without a lot of the annoying complexity during setup, there is always EndeavorOS. It’s pretty close to a basic Arch install, but it holds your hand a lot more.
That sucks man. There needs to be less division and derision in the Linux community. Not that there is a lot, but there is enough to drive some people away. It’s not as easy as windows to daily drive Linux. It is SO MUCH better than it used to be, but it still isn’t something you can just dump on a family member or friend and expect to not get calls about it.
And worse, it isn’t the same for almost anyone. I’ve had good luck with Arch derivatives (Manjaro and Garuda), but I’ve got friends that tried running the exact same OS and build etc. on very similar hardware and can’t get half the games working that I play regularly with minimal effort - even following the same steps I used with no issues. They install Ubuntu or Mint and suddenly it works fine… Happy it works, but none of us know why or what to do if something similar happens next time…
And somehow, it seems every problem any of us runs into are so bizarre (or we don’t know enough “likely causes” to google specific and correct terminology) that it seems like no one on the internet has ever had it happen before. Thankfully it’s been going great for me, but one of my friends is just having a rough time of it. :(
TL;DR - Thank you to all the actually helpful people in the Linux community that make this journey possible for the rest of us. To the people being dicks: if you have to swing down constantly to feel good, re-evaluate your life choices and leave us out of it.
I didn’t think these people were real until I had to explain to one very carefully that I do not have time nor the want to fuck with Arch and Ubuntu works for me when I was asking a simple display IT question on Reddit.
Personally use PopOS, I got a need to game, if I really wanna tinker it’s always there if I want to. But I need an entertainment OS for my living room not a pet project.
PopOS gaming was a shit show for me, steam wouldn’t work and installing non free drivers borked my system like it was Ubuntu 12.04. I honestly don’t have any idea what PopOS does that others don’t for gaming, steam/wine/lutris/bottles are distribution agnostic. I’ve only ever heard people say PopOS for gaming but never seen anything showing why it’s better.
Full disclosure this was a while ago and I’ve gone separate ways with Debian and derivatives for now.
What are you using now?
What PopOS’ did different was not any of the software you mentioned. It was proprietary NVIDIA drivers. They shipped them with the ISO and put it front and center.
I’m onto fedora silverblue now since I like rpm-ostree. I’ve moved from laptop to desktop since then too, which could have colored my experience.
Haha! PoopOS! Haha!
Sounds like something you might say if you hadn’t used Arch to daily drive? I’m about to hop off Lemmy and play some ff7 remake which cost me exactly no effort to install. Maybe arch used to be hard, but I’ve yet to see it and I built from minimal install. Meta packages yo.
It’s really not that bad
But also, you’re fine anyways. Use what you want
Yeah, I need more of an all 'rounder, but Linux choice is all about use cases. Ubuntu is just so bog standard I can set it and forget it for most things and I appreciate that.
I mean, currently I’m having less trouble using Arch to game than I was with anything else. I think the big thing is that Aech has a rapid release of updates, and the Steamdeck is based on Arch.
If you want those benefits without a lot of the annoying complexity during setup, there is always EndeavorOS. It’s pretty close to a basic Arch install, but it holds your hand a lot more.
Sounds exactly like what I’m looking for.
I have my old pc parts that I want to turn into a living room coop gaming system and have been looking for a linux version that’s minimal to run.
Have you encountered any issues like the other response?
Btw I have 0 experience with Linux and thought it would be a good project to get introduced.
I would suggest ubuntu for a 0 xp user, it just works. However popos is pretty easy to use as well.
My last ubuntu install it detected my 1660 and gave me an option for the proprietary drivers.
It is also easy to create bootable uses and try each one first using balena etcher or unetbootin.
That sucks man. There needs to be less division and derision in the Linux community. Not that there is a lot, but there is enough to drive some people away. It’s not as easy as windows to daily drive Linux. It is SO MUCH better than it used to be, but it still isn’t something you can just dump on a family member or friend and expect to not get calls about it.
And worse, it isn’t the same for almost anyone. I’ve had good luck with Arch derivatives (Manjaro and Garuda), but I’ve got friends that tried running the exact same OS and build etc. on very similar hardware and can’t get half the games working that I play regularly with minimal effort - even following the same steps I used with no issues. They install Ubuntu or Mint and suddenly it works fine… Happy it works, but none of us know why or what to do if something similar happens next time…
And somehow, it seems every problem any of us runs into are so bizarre (or we don’t know enough “likely causes” to google specific and correct terminology) that it seems like no one on the internet has ever had it happen before. Thankfully it’s been going great for me, but one of my friends is just having a rough time of it. :(
TL;DR - Thank you to all the actually helpful people in the Linux community that make this journey possible for the rest of us. To the people being dicks: if you have to swing down constantly to feel good, re-evaluate your life choices and leave us out of it.