I mean, I honestly don’t understand why anyone made an entire community with the focus of hating cars. I made one comment about why trains cannot replace cars and oh man the response I get from angry car haters is just so… bewildering.
Edit: I don’t mean to offend anyone. I respect your right to hold those beliefs.
When people say “fuck cars”, they usually mean “fuck car-centric infrastructure” (though some do really hate cars).
Having a diverse set of options focusing on walkability and public transportation doesn’t mean the elimination of cars. It just means that everyone isn’t forced to use a car to do just about anything. As a car-lover myself, I hate sitting on traffic. Makes the car I carefully chose to be just a glorified AC box. I hate sharing the road with 90 year old geriatrics, kids taking their parent’s car for a joyride, and bar-hopping drunk drivers. In a non-car centric neighborhood, they could all just walk/take public transpo to buy eggs, go to the arcade, or go home safely when they’re drunk.No they’re real. Some people are just extremely passionate about disliking cars, mostly due to environmental impact vs the greener alternatives although there are likely other reasons too.
Personally, sitting in a seat with plenty of room and casually watching videos, browsing kbin, or eating some food is a strictly superior experience to the constant vigilance of city traffic while not being allowed to move from my place.
People don’t like cars lol. Fuck cars is basically the cars version of ACAB.
Understandable, but off putting to some people.
Communities here are largely influenced and based on already existing communities on Reddit. I was subscribed to r/fuckcars there until I dropped reddit completely, but they have a pretty straightforward page explaining their beliefs and opinions about cars and replacing them with various different more efficient transportation methods.
Secondly… Your comment wasn’t hated, so I don’t know where those “angry car haters” come from.
No one actually thinks that you can replace cars entirely, but making more space FOR PEOPLE on the streets and making public transportation more comfortable and more affordable - is only a positive.
Lol, I hadn’t even noticed that. The pro-car people are uniformly rude and ignorant and all the anti-car people are offering polite corrections.
My faves are all the people going ‘How could I possibly run errands on foot/bike/public transport?’ I do that every day! How weak are these guys? Literally yesterday I ran a half marathon on the other side of the city then went for a meal out and used walking and public transport every step of the way… except for the 21k I did running.
It really depends on where you are though. Much like other public policy debates, a lot of this comes down to where someone lives. People that live in dense urban areas can very reasonably go without cars, and trains (specifically light rail) make a lot of sense. Once you get out of urban areas, suddenly trains don’t make any sense at all, and the ability to realistically take public transportation evaporates.
This is compounded by urban planning that doesn’t prioritize dense housing. Everyone says that we need more and better housing, but no one wants high rise apartments and condos in their neighborhood of single-family homes. That ends up leading to the kind of urban sprawl that makes public transportation impossible to work. Until zoning is taken out of local hands–so that wealthy communities can’t prevent high-density housing–you aren’t ever going to see this kind of thing change. (BTW - this is overwhelmingly happening in the US in communities that have a Democratic supermajority; that’s why housing is so expensive in California, because new housing isn’t being built.)
‘Cities should be better designed so that we don’t have to use cars’ is pretty much the manifesto of fuckCars and that’s exactly how most people have replied to this guy. It’s the pro-car people who are being rude and ignorant about the anti-car position.
so I don’t know where those “angry car haters” come from
Having read those comments… probably because OP already dismissed the legitimacy of the community and therefore interpreted all comments in the worst light. Any hint at even the smallest passion for the subject becomes “angry haters”.
Same as the other commenter who dismissed anyone wanting to go without cars as “paupers”, because they cannot imagine there being legitimate reasons to avoid cars.
Typical car brain. It’s really sad how so many people are completely incapable of even imagining alternatives to car centric design of living spaces.
I don’t think anyone seriously thinks you can actually get rid of cars entirely, but rather they’re annoyed that everything is built around the idea that you drive everywhere. This is damaging to the environment, human health, and probably even stifles community and culture.
The reason I hate cars is because some asshole plowed into me from behind with his oversized emotional support truck. He broke my hip, my foot and several of my ribs. I was trying to cross a left to go into a bike path.
He claimed I just turned right in front of his truck but the insurance and my lawyer had a different opinion on that matter.
Also as an aside, I didn’t need to tell anyone I was suing. I just sued him. This experience really taught me what goes into an actual lawsuit and people throw that threat around way too casually.
