People who say stuff like this are in a place of privilege. “Who cares if Trump wins again, we’ll organize against him!” Meanwhile he consolidates control (see his recent comments about increasing presidential powers), bans trans healthcare (even for adults), and appointing more SCOTUS justices that will make your organizing pointless.
Abstaining from voting is handing power to the far right.
False dichotomy. The US ceasing to exist does not stop those things from happening. Indeed, in the short term, things would probably get a hell of a lot worse, as there would be a massive, global power vacuum.
He doesn’t have to fight for me, but he’s most certainly not actively fighting against me. There is a big difference between a party rooted in corruption and too busy stuffing their own pockets to care, and a party rooted in corruption that’s actively scapegoating the vulnerable, minorities, and the non-wealthy in order to enrich itself.
DeSantis, the guy who militarized the Florida State Guard, gave them 90 mil for military tanks, planes, boats, and guns, and appointed leaders who abused them and threw disagreeing old ex-Marines into white vans? The guy who said they’re doing this so they can invade other states and deal with immigrants and anyone else they deem a threat?
well, he’s under 50 - we’ve had enough boomer-generation Presidents. on that note alone I’d vote for him. he’s also got experience in government, which Trump certainly didnt have - but literally anyone was better than another Clinton so he was basically a shoe-in.
is tanking the economy of the state he governs for political brownie points with the most extreme conservative and authoritarian factions in the country
wastes time, money, and effort perpetrating imbecilic culture wars just to give the aforementioned psychotic political base a category of “undesirables” to direct their hate and fear towards
has - as a matter of public record - directed state law enforcement agencies to intimidate and harass a data scientist and her family during the pandemic simply because she was calling the state government out for data manipulation
as a public policy during the pandemic, actively worked against public health measures, which provably increased the number of fatalities, and overall encouraged diminished trust in science and vaccines in conservative political circles
is pandering to authoritarians, hate groups, and white supremacists
has signed laws that allow the state to remove children from parents simply because said parents are understanding and accommodating if their kid feels more comfortable presenting outside of the heteronormative paradigm
(we can go on; those are just some domestically-relevant bullet points, and I got tired of reciting heinous and idiotic shit he’s doing)
I detest how neoliberal Biden is. I wish he was younger. But if the choice is him or a literal fascist, I know who I’m voting for, and it’s not going to be the guy who is simply less old.
Yes. But there are certain candidates who are objectively worse than others. As an example: any candidate who purposely undermines democratic processes is objectively worse than any candidate who does not.
Not for someone who doesn’t consider democracy to be a good thing. So one might be objectively anti-democratic but that’s not objectively bad. It’s bad in my and your opinion, but maybe not for the parent. So uhm, get out and vote like democracy depends on it. 🥲
plenty of other candidates exist.
Oh? RFK? West? Who has a real shot?
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People who say stuff like this are in a place of privilege. “Who cares if Trump wins again, we’ll organize against him!” Meanwhile he consolidates control (see his recent comments about increasing presidential powers), bans trans healthcare (even for adults), and appointing more SCOTUS justices that will make your organizing pointless.
Abstaining from voting is handing power to the far right.
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What if… and hear me out here… I don’t want to destroy the United States?
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False dichotomy. The US ceasing to exist does not stop those things from happening. Indeed, in the short term, things would probably get a hell of a lot worse, as there would be a massive, global power vacuum.
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He doesn’t have to fight for me, but he’s most certainly not actively fighting against me. There is a big difference between a party rooted in corruption and too busy stuffing their own pockets to care, and a party rooted in corruption that’s actively scapegoating the vulnerable, minorities, and the non-wealthy in order to enrich itself.
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True…but the other realistic option under the current US electoral system is THE REPUBLICANS. The ones that you’re blaming him for enabling.
Might want to look up the last few years of Republican policies and talking points. Gaslighting is not a good look
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possibly deSantis
DeSantis is better than Biden?
just about anyone is better than Biden. 90% are younger too
DeSantis, the guy who militarized the Florida State Guard, gave them 90 mil for military tanks, planes, boats, and guns, and appointed leaders who abused them and threw disagreeing old ex-Marines into white vans? The guy who said they’re doing this so they can invade other states and deal with immigrants and anyone else they deem a threat?
Man, you are really outing yourself as a fascist.
Are you saying you’ll vote for DeSantis? If so, why? And how do you think he’d be better than Biden?
well, he’s under 50 - we’ve had enough boomer-generation Presidents. on that note alone I’d vote for him. he’s also got experience in government, which Trump certainly didnt have - but literally anyone was better than another Clinton so he was basically a shoe-in.
You vote for presidents based on… age?
yep, it’s far more logical than believing the lies that they spout during their campaign
So you see 0 correlation between what politicians campaign on and the end results of what they do in office?
So you’d vote for an overt fascist, who:
I detest how neoliberal Biden is. I wish he was younger. But if the choice is him or a literal fascist, I know who I’m voting for, and it’s not going to be the guy who is simply less old.
the benefit of an individual vote is that you get to make the choice, and you can vote for anyone you want
Yes. But there are certain candidates who are objectively worse than others. As an example: any candidate who purposely undermines democratic processes is objectively worse than any candidate who does not.
Not for someone who doesn’t consider democracy to be a good thing. So one might be objectively anti-democratic but that’s not objectively bad. It’s bad in my and your opinion, but maybe not for the parent. So uhm, get out and vote like democracy depends on it. 🥲