• Maggoty@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Oh we’ve cared. It’s just that previous democratic presidents were working to stop settlements and work towards the two state solution.

    This turbo kill approach is new.

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      6 months ago

      Biden is the first US president to issue sanctions against Israeli colonizers on Palestinian land.

      Previous presidents of any side for the past 70 years have been sending military aid to Israel.

      You got your facts way wrong.

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        6 months ago

        Yeah sure, he sanctioned 5 of them. While he’s supplying massive amounts of war material for their genocide. It’s performative at best. And those settlers are still blocking aid with the help of the Israeli authorities who tell them where to find the shipments and don’t clear them off the road.

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          They’re sanctions against illegal Israeli colonization and he’s the first president to issue them.

          He even paused military aid to Israel, which I don’t think has ever happened before either.

          Biden was also the first president to directly contradict Israel and enact consequences over the idfs policy even though the IDF have been executing civilians for decades.

          You couldn’t be more off base.

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            That pause is evidence itself that he knew they were committing war crimes with our military aid. Which he did not pause even 90% of. He paused airplane bombs. Everything else from Bullets to Artillery shells was still getting sent the entire time.

            And your statement is false, Bush got them to remove settlements. I was just talking about previous democrats but if we want to include all presidents then there are certainly some who have done more to slow down Israel. For example in the 1990’s there was the Oslo Accords.

            Performative actions do not absolve you of illegally supplying weapons to a criminal regime.

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              So your contention is that

              1. Although Biden is the only president to actively contradict and issue sanctions against the Israeli government and its settlers for their colonization and war crimes,

              2. Biden’s the least active president to actively contradict and issue sanctions against the Israeli government and its settlers for their colonization and war crimes.

              Even though nobody else has contradicted Israel or issued sanctions and Biden has.

              You are confused.

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                6 months ago

                You are ignoring key issues I’ve brought up to continue your counter factual narrative. I’m used to dealing with this from Republicans. Getting this from Democrats is seriously disappointing.

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                  This is the historical narrative.

                  You might not want to make up stores if you don’t want to be disillusioned.

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                    No it isn’t. You’re doing the same thing Trump’s supporters do and creating alternative facts.