Young Americans are piling the blame for their student debt balances on conservatives, according to a poll by Generation Lab provided exclusively to Axios.

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    Joe biden lobbied to remove last leg of BK protection as senator from DE

    Obama reformed student loan into clown shit it is today…

    College price gouging are mostly “left” leaning “institutions”

    Poorly educated people taking on debt made their choices.

    I am sure republicans did their fair share fucking us but wtf is this partisan simping when we are getting tagged teamed?

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      Now let’s up pull up the GOP record on these things

      Oh wait, that doesn’t matter because you’re just a bunch of assholes

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        There is no me in that…

        i am the bottom, not left or right…

        but sure, since you brought it up, please bring up a few examples of GOP fucking us over on student loans. I am ready to learn.

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          Thank you for posting this. I was beginning to become concerned that I’d need to visit Reddit for my fill of disingenuous whataboutism, but this gives me hope that we can cultivate a culture of bad-faith posting right here in the fediverse.

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            The thing I miss about Reddit most is RES – I want to be able to tag these users before I block them outright.

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          For starters the gop brought the suit against the student debt relief. Why the corrupt federal judge decided they had standing to even do it is beyond me. But oh hey look… That federal judge is also a republican, big surprise.

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            And crickets because the red hat dunce cap crowd doesn’t do well with facts. They’ll spit lies and then when called out will just fade away and do it again somewhere else.

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          You can fuck right off with that bad faith “both sides” horseshit. You aren’t fooling anyone, people are wising up to this shitty tactic.

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        That’s pretty bold take. So if we find out Biden murdered a bunch of people in 2009 its okay because it was before 2010. what kind of logic is that. You are basically saying Joe Biden’s entire Senate career is not his responsibility since he was in the Senate from 1972-2009. Lets have some honest discourse here, bring up the full record of people that are alive its the only honest thing to do.

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          Lets have some honest discourse here, bring up the full record of people that are alive its the only honest thing to do.

          Alright then. It’s unfair to hold someone’s vote from considerably earlier against them, when they have voted/signed to the contrary of that and are actively espousing the opposite of their vote. I think it’s dishonest to act otherwise.

          You run into issues otherwise where you don’t have the context of the times that they voted during. Student debt is relatively recent problem, ~90s, that has really accelerated the last decade or two. Voting against relief when it was more affordable is a reasonable position. You’ve also got the crime bill, which was passed in a time where crime was a significant concern for voters, and black communities majority favored the bill.

          Maybe the best example, gay rights. Don’t Ask Don’t Tell was once liberal policy. LGBT people could work in the military and they wouldn’t be asked about sexuality. Now, we would consider that incredibly homophobic. California even passed a “Defense of Marriage Act” in I think 2007, and has very much so been pro LGBT rights for quite a while since.

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            (not so) fun fact! That California law was a constitutional amendment and is still on the books. It’s only unenforceable due to a supreme court ruling. You can see where that’s going.

            Fortunately it’s looking like Californian’s will get to vote to repeal that amendment next year.

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      As much as republicans are in the lead when it comes to fucking over the citizenry, agreed that we should continue to hold both sides - and their records - accountable