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yea it’s purpose is gettin lockheed Martin’s CEO a new private jet maybe two 😂 and also crashing 😆😂😂😂

Jesus Christ we already have a big military wtf are you on about?

you’re saying us doesn’t already have a big military?!

https://www.pgpf.org/finding-solutions/national-security?utm_source=link&utm_medium=button&utm_campaign=lesson

also lets not forget. the gaudy buildings won’t be used to commit yet more war crimes that get hand waved away. so imo I’ll take the fucking buildings.

we need more gaudy buildings here every fucking city looks the same it’s all surburbia fucking cars nightmare.

what are you talking about mate. I’m saying I want them to spend it on healthcare… on housing… on transportation and better infrastructure.

and by the way. I’d take the gaudy buildings over a fucking malfunctioning (a pilot just recently had to EJECT DURING A TEST FLIGHT) … expensive to maintain stealth jet (1.7 trillion JUST FOR THIS) when we already have the world’s largest arsenal by far. which…btw what do you suppose we do with all the jets and arsenal we already have??? how is this not just us yet again over manufacturing. what war are we going to start next to justify this.

it’s so sickening

https://www.pgpf.org/chart-archive/0053_defense-comparison

the amount of defense propagandists is honestly sickening on this thread. how about you guys roll this hard for things that actually help the people and not some malfunctioning stealth jet

when we could easily just don’t omit selling our current arsenal. do you guys realize how vast out arsenal already is! how deep our ties are economically to our allies? that we make guns too that sell way faster than jets? like why are you so attached to a failing jet project?

it’s honestly funny. and then I have all the like Lockheed Martin employees just down voting me because they don’t wanna hear that their prize project is actually garbage and more ‘justified’ defense spending lollololol.

you guys are insane if you don’t already think our current k military is more than capable. I’m so sick of this arms race bullshit. you guys are fighting a ghost at this point. f35s ain’t gonna scare china. it’s not gonna scare russia. it’s just bs. and by the way… diplomacy is a thing too. sooo we could always try that.

I’m just saying we don’t need another fucking jet. we just don’t.

https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-23-106047

once again it doesn’t even matter the project is still hundreads of billions over budget. also just the fact that we haven’t spent the money yet changes nothing.

you lads don’t like to differentiate when it comes to actually useful public spending like healthcare initiatives or education reform.

so why should I distinguish here? in fact you’re right. that figure will likely INCREASE

keep coping. keep coping that its actually good spending and that its all a okay. keep coping while people die and can’t afford healthcare. while logistics companies struggle on failing infrastructure

honestly this has to be a joke if you think it changes anything. smh

I’m done with this convo.

my point is that its fucking dumb pointing out uae when America does dumb things on a much larger scale. we deserve at least 10x edits lmap

also we use slave labor here as well. look into the prisons

you pointing out that 'actually we haven’t spent the full 1.7 trillion yet… we’re just 183 billion over budget rn and those are just lifetime costs is honestly so dumb and distinction that adds nothing else to the conversation and doesn’t change the fact that literal air force pilots hate the damn thing and you guys are over here posturing endlessly

how is this site worse than Reddit lol.

also F-35 Fighter Jet Problems Affect the Whole US Military Aircraft Fleet https://www.businessinsider.com/ongoing-f35-fighter-jet-problems-affect-whole-us-military-fleet-2023-1?amp

F-35 Aircraft: DOD and the Military Services Need to Reassess the … https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-23-105341 F-35 fighter jets ‘mission capable’ only 55% of the time, watchdog report finds https://www.stripes.com/theaters/us/2023-09-21/f35-jets-crash-repairs-11446626.html

Not a Lot of F-35s Are Flying Right Now - Popular Mechanics https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/aviation/a42912833/f-35-availability-problems/

Inside America’s Dysfunctional Trillion-Dollar Fighter-Jet Program https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/21/magazine/f35-joint-strike-fighter-program.html

do I need to keep going? or are you going to try to keep gas lighting me into agreeing that actually you’re right all the f35 spending is justified and its actually not just a collasal fuck up?

and also lets not forget America loves funding wars lol. so I don’t even know what you’re on about. sometimes it seems like we justify wars elsewhere so that sods like you can come and defend all this spending by pointing to problems we’ve created/exascurbated.

give me a break. f35 is the peacemaker you say? so ridiculous and you clearly don’t understand foreign policy of you think the way you do.

you’re so dellusional mate if you think it’s the f35 program keeping china from invading and not our deep economic ties with them. f22 is more but it didn’t cost trillions to make.

not a good point. and no that is not the purpose of military spending that’s the propaganda lockee heed Martin lobbiest shrill to our idiotic Congress people.

sheesh we are doomed because people like your need to bend over backwards to justify outrageous military spending. and no I’m not thinking of the f16 tests, I’m thinking of the literal pilots that call the f35 a sack of shit

also a higher stealth capability… for what mate for what we already have uavs for recon. military satellites. tapped into the grid of the entire world through back doors in like phones and shir.

we don’t need a fucking jet and nothing you say will ever change that. you’re literally justifting bullshit.

us not putting money into dumb shit like this won’t change the fact that we are the world’s largest nuclear power. thats the real thing keeping war at bay it’s MAD not some jet bro when we have literally arsenal a on arsenals already of just aircraft CARRIERS

like what are you on about

what are you talking about?

BOTH there is no seperating the two??? the f35 is an example out of many examples of govt over spending. and again the f35 is AWFUL for bang to the buck? what war do we need it for? what are we missing? https://www.defensenews.com/smr/hidden-troubles-f35 btw it’s awful it’s no secret that it is mid engineered

you’re not gonna gas light me into saying that those are two separate discussions when they aren’t.

there’s no need to like, defend the f35 project. lmao the actual defense industry is aware of its issues.

just trying to figure out where this ‘bang for our Buck’ is coming from when there no shot were going to sell enough to offset the cost as well as them being buggy and hard to maintain. .you do know the us already has the strongest military BY FAR. It’s pointless.

yes I disagree completely. at the current price point out current arsenal is already more than capable than pretty much the entire world bro.

we don’t need another fucking fighter jet when there’s people in your population struggling with medical debt. with not being able to afford where they live and no means to escape and ending homeless. With schools struggling for funding. with a decaying railroad system and general infrastructue.

seriously all the things and protections that made this country great pre Reagan (well besides y’know blatant segregation) are EVISCERATED and you guys are here giving them a pat on the back for freaking 1trillion plus to a still not complete and fully ready project. and even if it was complete we’ve FAR exceeded the value. like it’s just not needed bro it’s greed.

it drives me insane to see this, and how apathetic everyone is. are we ever going to wake up from this madness?

the point is. the f35 is a horribly over budget and unneeded venture. the USA doesn’t need it. it’s a military industrial complex thing. and you guys in chat going I don’t get it… sigh. part of the problem lol. the uae buying them doesn’t change the fact we’ve spent like ten x the budget. also lots of countries buy stuff from us. like the world’s number one arms dealer so I don’t even get YOUR point.

that’s not a success and you’re coping lol. there’s an odd amount of America simps here lolol

my brother in christ, the USA has spent hundreds of billions-- nay TRILLIONS just on the f35 project

https://fortune.com/longform/lockheed-martin-f-35-fighter-jet/

lots of govts spend money on dumbass shit haha

yea exactly I’m sick of all this whataboutism about Hamas. Hamas is the sole response to the atrocities that the idf has started. they hold all the power in this situation, they have killed many many many more people then Hamas ever could. They have also committed and are committing insane like Nazi level war crimes and all we get is… okay but Hamas bad.

also lets not forget… most Palestinians didn’t even want Hamas. they havent had an actiall election in almost two decades. Because it’s literally not safe enough because the idf keeps bombing them.

stop all the back and forth finger pointing, America could pull funding from isreal, instead of this E fleas posturing. If isreal wanted peace then we could hve peace but there will never be peace until the idf stops bombing refugee camps and hospitals lol.

so sick of all this whataboutism, obviously any killing is wrong but Hamas is just a glorified token a red herring being used to justify brutality on a Holocaust level scale. and we need to stop allowing it.

hmmm how do I follow that I’m using the boost app :) thanks!

facts. is there an egg_irl here? I’m new haha