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- news@lemmy.world
Summary
The International Criminal Court (ICC) has issued arrest warrants for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, former defense minister Yoav Gallant, and Hamas officials, accusing them of war crimes and crimes against humanity in Gaza and during the October 2023 attacks.
The court alleges actions like depriving Gaza civilians of essential resources.
Israel and the U.S., non-members of the ICC, reject the warrants, with Netanyahu calling them antisemitic.
Hamas also criticized the decision.
The practical enforcement of these warrants remains uncertain, as the ICC lacks authority to compel arrests.
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Netanyahu and other Israeli leaders have condemned ICC Chief Prosecutor Karim Khan’s request for warrants as disgraceful and antisemitic.
Antisemitism does manifest itself in both casual and systematic forms. The region-specific component is also important.
However, claims regarding antisemitism from the Israeli government are increasingly becoming a “reverse confirmation” of sorts. One could almost argue that if they call something antisemitic, chances are it’s actually not and may even be the correct course of action (clear cut cases notwithstanding).
https://holocaustremembrance.com/resources/working-definition-antisemitism
That’s the definition they use, so anything you say against the State they see as being against the ethnicity, which doesn’t make sense.
What region-specific component are you referring to? I’m genuinely asking, not being argumentative. I completely agree that holding Netanyahu accountable for war crimes is not antisemitism, let alone the ICC charging leaders on both sides of the conflict.
I am looking at it from a more abstract, generic perspective.
When you lose the right to freely travel, work, live in your country. There is going to be a lot of animosity around this. I don’t think it is fair to purely attribute this to a discriminatory attitude.
As a Jew, I’m becoming desensitized to the word “antisemitic.” Even my Israeli cousins overuse the word and can’t explain to me how this kind of shit is antisemitism beyond “Hamas wants to kill us.”
the Palestinians did not get to choose the ethnicity of their oppressors.
The brits? The ottomans?
And most recently, the Israeli government.
I wonder where this vehement outrage was when the iraquis and turks kill kurds 🙃or when uighurs ger marched to camps. Are you seriously trying to make the case that it has nothing to do with antisemitism?
“You can’t cry wolf and BE the wolves. Do you not understand what the villagers do to wolves?”
Netanyahu and other Israeli leaders have condemned request for warrants as disgraceful and antisemitic.
I wasn’t aware he was a stand up comedian. I mean, I always knew he was a clown.
Decrying the persecution of crimes against humanity as antisemitic is quite something. It begs the question then, what these people see inherently Semitic about perpetrating these crimes.
The blatant misuse of this term is actually very harmful to Jews around the world, since calls of those actually suffering from anti-Jewish sentiment are not taken seriously anymore.
Cue “ICC is antisemitic”, just like the ICJ, the UN, every human rights organisation, the Special Rapporteur, independent journalists, protestors etc etc.
Antisemitism and victimhood are the only cards left for Zio fascists to play with.
The original Nazis would always claim that they represented the Arian Race and that any criticism of them was “against the Arian Race” and the Zionists, a Neue Nazi group, do the same only using a different ethnicity.
This is far from the only way in which these Neue Nazis are the same as the original Nazis.
‘‘How are you today?’’ ‘‘That’s an antisemitic question.’’
That’s what the constant cry wolf has lead to. The absurd has become real.
I heard that Bibi stubbed his toe on an antisemetic table this morning.
Bibi has a table that prevents vomiting? What else is that bastard hiding?!
Lmao thanks for pointing out the typo. Or perhaps it’s the zionists that keep making a mistake and are trying to tell us that ending the genocide in Gaza helps them throw up less?
Who’d have thunk that 2000 years of conflict was all a misunderstanding about spelling…
Now do their enablers.
The US and others were fine with it when they issued a warrant for Putin, I’m sure they’ll be on board for this as well, right?
I’m sure if the US could have vetoed the warrant, they would have.
Finally! Now arrest the fuckers.
Finally… it was about time!
They’ve been preparing for this for a while. Months ago already I remember reading accusations of the ICC being antisemitic by Israelis and various sympathisers. The old fiddle that never stops playing.
Good news
God they really just play the antisemitism card for everything
It’s the only card they have
I remember when the people who said ‘if you call everything Nazism, then what are you going to do when the real Nazis arrive’ ended up being Nazis themselves… who did not shy away from calling their opposition fascist and Nazis even when they were wearing Swastikas on them.
Zionists are the same. The exact same. They are remarkably antisemitic (look up the founder of Zionism, Theodor Herzl. The guy was a RAGING antisemite!) but at the same time throw that accusation left and right at anything that even remotely disapproves of their actions.
Those warrants aren’t worth the paper they’re printed on, but it’s still nice to see official bodies outside the US calling Netanyahu what he is.
These warrants absolutely matter in terms of being a trumo card in several legal issues relating to EU-Israel relations.
It’s a nice thought. I won’t hold my breath expecting any real consequences for Israel, though.
The saddest thing is that if they do take action, it will be the lowest bar possible of accountability. They’ll for example ban products from illegal settlements and then let Israel redurect them anyways.
Those warrants are worth a lot. Not enough to put them behind bars, but still a lot!
Not exactly. The ratifying countries are bound by contract to arrest them. Plus It’s a serious issue not to do it, because this would delegitimize the ICC as an institution, which is not in the interest of most ratifying countries. So it essentially boils down to a choice between losing the court as a valuable weapon against war criminals or bad relations with Israel.
What happens after an arrest is another matter and I think that is where the real pressure would happen
“Bound by contract”, lol…
Are you familiar with Donald Trump?
Better late than never, for all the good it will do…
How’s that working out?
I mean it’s done quite a lot to diplomatically isolate them, right? Putin couldn’t go to South Africa for BRICS, he couldn’t attend the G20 summit this week, and presumably lots of other trips he hasn’t done that he would have otherwise intended to
In Israel’s case, I expect this will be a pain for Netanyahu more than it has been for Putin, since the set of countries that are neither ICC signatories nor actively hostile to Israel is a pretty short list
Finally the only sensible response to what is happening in Israel.
Arrest the leaders on both sides!
This has happened already, it’s now the 2nd time they’ve issued the warrent.
This is just the first time the story was allowed through the US media wall
I remember saying this should be done at the start of the conflict and I was called a genocide loving Nazi for saying Hamas was just as bad. Hamas leaders are wealthy old men who live in luxury outside of Gaza
Sinwar and the others listed in the warrant were inside Gaza. Pretending otherwise was part of Israeli propaganda
Are you still going with this “Hamas are the good guys” bullshit?
That’s not what I said, I said that it’s propaganda to pretend Hamas’ leaders are not in Gaza.
So the reports saying they’re not there, fake news. The reports saying they are, Believe it without question?
What country was Sinwar found in again? A spokesman or negotiator in Qatar is not the same as the leadership. Try again.
I doubt any country will have the stones to arrest him in the face of US pressure.
At least with America going full mask off as a force of evil, the rest of the world can stop waiting on us to do the right thing.
Seriously if anything good can come from this the U.S. needs to stop fucking around with other countries sovereignty and handle it’s own affairs for a few decades.
I think the mask truly went off in 2003. Dubya was an international terrorist in the highest office of the world.
That was really Cheney, his handler.
Don’t worry though, Dems are buddies with the Cheney family now. Those Republican votes for Kamala are going to turn up any day now.
Pretty sure if he ever sets foot in South America he’ll be arrested
There is number of countries already said they would.
“The Netherlands, Switzerland, Ireland, Italy, and Spain all said they would meet their commitments and obligations regarding the Rome Statute and International Law.”
