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    11 months ago

    Technically false
    Gamer here, use Linux cause proton is good and I’m fed up with windows lol

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      11 months ago

      This is probably an old meme. I use Linux as a dedicated gaming OS, macOS for everything else except when Linux is already booted or nothing is and I want to do something quickly.

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          In my case, Inventor and AutoCAD. I hate AutoDesk with the fury of a thousand suns, but FreeCAD just isn’t stable enough.

          Oh, and currently needing .NET automatic source generation (long story), which is very difficult to develop on anything other than Windows.

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        I use Windows only when a certain game has a quirk in Linux. Everything else is Linux. Video editing, photo editing, gaming, browsing, etc

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      I kind of really dislike the notion that you only use Linux because you are too poor for Apple.

      I don’t use Apple because I don’t like to be stuck in a walled garden where a company decides what’s best for me.

      I know it’s just a meme, but I think too many people actually think Linux is somehow inferior to Apple (MacOS) while I think it’s the other way around.

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        You’re confusing iOS, where you are in a walled garden, with macOS, where you can just do whatever the hell you want (There’s a recovery partition you can boot to where you can disable just about every bit of security that’s not hardware much like booting to grub in Linux)

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          11 months ago

          You’re right, although I wouldn’t be surprised that at some point MacOS will have a mandatory app store to protect you.

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        11 months ago

        I kind of really dislike the notion that you only use Linux because you are too poor for Apple.

        It’s supposed to be funny 🤷 😂, like a very simplified version of how things actually are.

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        Also. MacOS is absolute garbage. I’ve used it for 4 months now, and it pisses me off how inconsistent it is, and poorly designed and written. Two days wasted because of an almost bricked laptop because the monitor was set to 60Hz while installing an update. Just think about that.

        I also had the misfortune of booting into windows after changing a motherboard. It was an absolute shit show there too, with broken drivers. Two hours of debugging. Had to use a long ethenet cable to even start fixing it, a flashback to a Linux experience I had in 2007.

        Same system in Linux? Not a single second spent. WiFi drivers, microcode. Everything worked fine. Only thing necessary was fixing the grub/mbr partition that Windows decided to write over, on a separate drive. But that’s also Microsoft being shit.

        People just don’t know how much more usable Linux is these days. Especially for power users. You can do so many things, so easily, that either works out of the box, or you can do with simple scripting. The only issue is software availability, but that too is mostly a thing of the past, and not really a fault of the OS.

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          Yes, I agree. Just holy cactus, MacOS is just so bad these days. The inconsistency us driving me nuts. Why do the windows you open with the “help” menus inside of apps have small buttons? Why do some apps (e.g. Music) have a Search entry on the left side, and why do so have it on the left? Why do we still have tons of icons for system apps (Photo Booth, I’m looking at you) who have been programmed in a time where there have been dinosaurs around and seem to have never changed? … And so on. Like honestly, MacOS is so much better that Windows (which admittedly isn’t hard), but when I open up my good ol’ Fedora I dont have the feeling that I see a new shiny operating system, and when I click on a wrong button I am in the 1990-s again. Or 2050-s. Or God knows where. Linux has its unique set of challenges, but I fully agree that the notion that “MacOS is better than the rest” just isn’t true anymore. Maybe it was, when Linux distributions were worse and there was more money put into bugfixing OS releases. But not anymore.

      • ⸻ Ban DHMO 🇦🇺 ⸻@aussie.zone
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        11 months ago

        When MacOS users can snap windows to the edge of their screens and quit apps by hitting the red button we can have a chat about what the better desktop experience is

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          snap windows to the edge of their screens

          While it’s not a feature out of the box, there is software to add this functionality to macOS. But… same on Linux. You need to install that software if you want the feature. (Gnome/i3/other choice with this functionality.) So 🤷‍♂️

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            The most popular software to do that is proprietary and you have to buy it. For Apple you are only a demi-sentient wallet and they are constantly trying to dry you up. I hate that with a passion.

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              Okay. Is that software owned by Apple, you mean? Or only available through their store?

              What about the next, or second next popular software to do that? All proprietary and cost money?

              Just curious.

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      11 months ago

      Not good enough for DRM games, most mmo games or playing on private servers in minecraft or something.

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        If the DRM or anticheat needs low enough level access that it won’t run in wine I don’t think I really want it running on my computer either way.

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        11 months ago

        What’s are you talking about with Minecraft? I’ve always been able to joins any server cause it’s the same game.

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          Private servers not official Microsoft ones you login on the game. A server that isn’t connected by Microsoft organization in the Minecraft community. That’s the private server im talking about.

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            I play Minecraft without any problem on:

            1. Local LAN Game
            2. Local Private Server (Forge mostly).
            3. Online Private Server. either my own or from others.
            4. Official Internet Server

            No idea what problems you seem to have but Minecraft works 100% perfect on Linux.

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              Think they mean Bedrock, not Java

              Bedrock is the windows-forced version and has Realms, which is probably what they mean by private server

              Really good example of the difference between old and new school PC gaming right there

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                Oh yes, I had actually forgotten that this things exists. You could be right. But quick search says there is a way to use Bedrock on linux and connect to all kind of servers / realms as well. even together with java users. but tbh, i have not looked deeper into it.

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      Wrong. I’ve ran into a ton of issues recently with proton. Don’t act like it’s flawless. It needs a lot of work.

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        most of us that gave up windows did so because it had tons of issues. Don’t act like windows is flawless, MS stopped putting in work.

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        Lemmy trying to act like Linux is less work than Windows for gaming, the delusion is palpable

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      Worth every penny IMO, MacOS is super nice and so is the hardware.

      (I don’t have a mac, wish I did though).

      Cue the apple hater replies, this will be fun.

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        Mac was fantastic in the '80s

        Mac was great in the "90s

        Mac was good in the '00s

        Linux Mint was fantastic in the '10s

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          Ok but it’s the 20s and I want to run apps that are only on new chip MacOS computers and i don’t have one what do I do, saaave me linukz

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            ARM compatibility is still shit. All actually useful desktop apps are still primarily x86-64, the compatibility layer Rosetta is hit or miss, everything is proprietary and expensive, and Apple decided the Pro model should only have 8GB for a shit ton of money. Apple is overpriced trash in the '20s.

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    11 months ago

    I’m actually curious what BSD provides in comparison to Linux. What does it add, do better, or worse?

    The only thing I know is that they introduced some stuff way before linux did, but that’s simply due to the age. BSD jails for example have been around for a long time. Buy beyond that, it was never apparent to me why linux took off and BSD didn’t.

    CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

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      Bsd is a complete package and tested as such. All the software and everything. It’s like windows, when it’s released you install it and you get wordpad, edge, calculator etc. Bsd is the same that way. Linux is just a kernel, with the distributions bolting on the gnu software. I know it sounds kinda the same but it’s not.

      Also the license. With Linux I think you need to cite it’s use and you can’t charge for something build with it (of course there’s exceptions, like packages you create do not need to be for example), but bsd license is the most permissive. You can charge a customer for it and dress it up however you want.

      No systemd.

      There’s some other stuff too