• helenslunch@feddit.nl
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    14
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    11 months ago

    I live in a city, I don’t own a car, I walk and ride a bike, and use public transportation and ride sharing.

    That’s great that you have that but those options don’t exist in most of the US.

    • oxjox@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      arrow-down
      8
      ·
      11 months ago

      I know. Most of the US is suburban and rural areas. That’s my point - that living in a city is more convenient.

      • helenslunch@feddit.nl
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        11
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        11 months ago

        We’re talking about cities…

        83% of Americans live in urban areas. Maybe 10% of those have useable public transport. My city has a single train line and some buses that take roughly 4x longer to get where I’m going.

        • oxjox@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          9
          ·
          11 months ago

          Public transportation is certainly an option in cities. Most suburbs I’ve been to at least have buses and ride share. Still, “most of the US” is rural and sprawling suburbs that do not have these options. If more people lived and worked in and near cities, the public transportation would have more public funding for improvements. Thankfully, this administration is looking into some very exciting improvements in our rail systems and offering more funding for cities for their own improvements. Fingers crossed.

            • oxjox@lemmy.ml
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              8
              ·
              11 months ago

              I don’t know how people feel the need to lie about things like this.

              You’re telling me that in the United State of America, there are cities that exist that do not have buses or subways or trollies or taxis or Ubers or bike shares? Please, tell me which city has none of these options?

              • helenslunch@feddit.nl
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                8
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                edit-2
                11 months ago

                No one is lying. There are options and there are viable options. A bus route 30 miles away does nothing to help you.

                Ride shares are not public transportation. Bikes do no good if you don’t have bike lanes to safely ride them in.

                • AA5B@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  7
                  ·
                  11 months ago

                  Plus all too often, buses have been the neglected stepchild of public transit and at least have the reputation of dirty, smelly, broken, crime ridden. I don’t think that’s true for the most part but there’s a psychological part to deal with, in addition to investing enough to keep things in good running order

                • oxjox@lemmy.ml
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  ·
                  11 months ago

                  WTF are you going on about? We’re talking about city bus routes to get you around town. Most bus routes are at most a ten minute walk. To claim that a city bus is 30 miles away is a verifiable lie. Do you not know what a city or a bus or a mile is?

                  While technically true, car and bike share aren’t publicly managed, they are affordable forms of transportation available to the public that negate the need to have a vehicle in a city.

                  • helenslunch@feddit.nl
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    arrow-down
                    1
                    ·
                    11 months ago

                    To claim that a city bus is 30 miles away is a verifiable lie.

                    LOOOOLOLOL okay go ahead and “verify” that nowhere in America is 30 miles from a bus stop. I’ll wait.