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Doesn’t this just mean Newsom appoints a replacement to finish her term and then they can get back to confirmation process? I seem to recall that was the reason so many called for her to resign, she was holding things up because she was too ill to sit for the confirmation process.
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don’t speak ill of the dead don’t speak ill of the dead don’t speak ill of the dead
Fuck the dead. Speak your peace. What they gonna do? Rot on you?
It’s more of a matter of what goes around comes around.
If you aren’t a POS, you have nothing to worry about. Its impolite to say it when she’s alive at 90, its impolite now, when are we supposed to call her out for terrible behavior exactly?
If you aren’t a POS, you have nothing to worry about. Its impolite to say it when she’s alive at 90, its impolite now, when are we supposed to call her out for terrible behavior exactly?
Because every human being is 100% perfect and has never had any POS moments in their life, right?
Respect for the dead is a real thing. Talking shit to someone’s face is allot braver than talking behind their back when they’re buried in the ground.
Of course everyone has had bad moments. They are part of the truth though, and should be spoken of publically where appropriate. Judge people by their entire life, not only by the good parts. We as a society were not brave enough to demand she step down 3 years ago, but we can at least do her the courtesy of not lying anymore now that she’s dead.
We as a society were not brave enough to demand she step down 3 years ago
Don’t remember her condition being public knowledge 3 years ago?
The condition of being 90?
Maybe now she’ll retire?
Retire? She’s still got a decent shot in the next senate primary.
I’m sure the oligarchy will move onto weekend at bernie-ing some other end of life boomer.
She’s the fucking silent generation; literally the generation before boomers
Boomers were trained by rod and belt to respect their elders. They can’t help it.
Boomers were trained by rod and belt to respect their elders. They can’t help it.
Well they did fight World War II, so there was that.
Nope. The baby boom happened after they got back from WW2 and started fucking. That would be the so called “Greatest” Generation whom were all abusers and PTSD sufferers in some form, whether it’s from actual war or great depression survival. Stories I heard about them all they did was beat their kids and treat em like garbage. No wonder the boomers are insane.
Yeah I’m aware of those facts.
It’s just that people use the term baby boomers two ways, one as a general derogatory for anyone who’s old, and then another way as a specific age group during specific years.
I was replying to the generic usage, not the literal.
She could still beat John Ashcroft
I imagine Mitch McConnell isn’t too far behind.
I get it, aging sucks, but it’s part of the deal. You can’t live forever and there is a time to move on.
What I don’t understand is why these people don’t just retire? Being that rich, you can kick up your feet and sip margaritas all day for the rest of your life, why work till you die if you don’t have to??
Because power appears to be even more addictive than money.
Might also be a case of them being so deep into the fight that they don’t want to walk away from it.
I don’t cheer death, but this shouldn’t be allowed. At least we can move things forward from the headache her (really those around her, lets be real) refusal to resign.
It shouldn’t be allowed, by having term limits for all members of Congress and possibly an age cap. I would be OK with an age cap of 75 for anyone running for election, with exceptions for those who are already in office and surpass that age. After their term ends past age 75 they must retire. Term limits… maybe 2 or 3 terms, not sure
75 is too high. I’d do 65 at most.
Make it more scientifically oriented, peg it to the average age of noticeable mental decline caused by aging, at present that’s still mid to late 60s but it’ll feel less “arbitrary”
Unfortunately, anything that isn’t a hard number is just going to turn into a political cluster fuck.
“What does ‘noticable’ mean? Let’s argue this for 30 years and never come to a decision.”
The best way to “future” proof it would be to make the age get lower every decade until another constitutional amendment is passed.
Well with mental decline there’s actual diagnostic standards that can be applied to determine the statistical average.
Like I said, we already have a general range, and a more precise number which can flex as statistics change wouldn’t be that much harder to achieve.
I believe putting it under standards of medical and mental diagnosis protects it once it’s set in as a norm, a number is just a number, but a calculated number based on medical statistics exposes anyone challenging it to accusations of trying to weaken the government by opening the door for people in mental decline to cling on to power.
Well with mental decline there’s actual diagnostic standards that can be applied to determine the statistical average.
Agree. There are actual cognitive tests that exists today and that’s used by medical personnel.
They could be purpose to test those in office as they get older, the same way that pilots have to get tested medically to maintain their license.
Imagine if she had mentored and sponsored a younger replacement in 2000 and then retired in 2010. Where would we be?
Now that Skeletor has died with no one obvious to replace her, the Judiciary Committee will probably grind to a halt when it comes to confirming judges.
She was a public servant that worked for a long time on your behalf.
California’s governor will name a replacement for the remainder of her term.
Democrats no longer have a clear majority in the Senate. This has all sorts of complications. I believe it will still take 60 votes to replace her in Judiciary which Republicans won’t give them. Probably the main reason she stuck around to begin with. Biden has to be careful with his nominees if he can get through any at all. Gawd help us if a SCOTUS member dies. The call for Menendez to step down will quiet a bit.
She was a public servant that worked for a long time on your behalf.
She worked a long time and was obviously better than the GOP, but staying on for so long was at best a lack of vision and at worse an egotistical decision that will bite us in the ass. All these geriatric ass politicians who don’t mentor, grow the bench with the next generation, and retire when it is time to are leading us to the situation. This is going to end up being RBG all over again.
Blame the Senate Committe Seniority system.
Seniority in the United States Senate is based on the length of time a senator serves on a committee. The majority party member with the most seniority on a committee usually serves as the chair.
That is the only reason to keep sending these people back as old as they are. You send someone new, they have zero power.
No. The second-most senior one from the same party would become the most senior and take over. There’s no good reason for her staying on 15+ years too long.
That would be from a different state and then that state would lose the power of having a senior committee member.
There is a reason Senator Robert Byrd was the longest-serving U.S. Senator. Serving three different tenures as chairman of the United States Senate Committee on Appropriations enabled Byrd to steer a great deal of federal money toward projects in West Virginia.
We’re talking about California here. If any state isn’t starved of power and dependant on federal money, it’s California.
Feinstein was on the following committees. You don’t think she pushed California’s interests in every one.
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Committee on Appropriation
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Subcommittee on Agriculture, Rural Development, Food and Drug Administration, and Related Agencies
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Subcommittee on Commerce, Justice, Science, and Related Agencies
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Subcommittee on Defense
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Subcommittee on Energy and Water Development (Chairman)
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Subcommittee on Interior, Environment, and Related Agencies
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Subcommittee on Transportation, Housing and Urban Development, and Related Agencies
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Committee on Rules and Administration
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Committee on the Judiciary
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Subcommittee on Criminal Justice and Counterterrorism
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Subcommittee on Federal Courts, Oversight, Agency Action, and Federal Rights
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Subcommittee on Human Rights and the Law
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Subcommittee on the Constitution (Chairman)
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Select Committee on Intelligence
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That last paragraph is all sorts of reasons why she should have retired 15 years ago (at 75!) When voters would have easily voted in her (possibly even hand picked!) protege.
We’re now left a mess because someone with an ego didn’t retire when they could have. Wait this is starting to sound familiar. Thankfully the consequences aren’t likely to be as dire this time.
15 years would mean that you would miss her vote for Elena Kagan and Sonia Sotomayor, plus Obamacare. We can play what if all day long.
Yeah because California would elect a Republican senator in 2008 🙄
You just know that it crossed the minds of her enablers that they could still cling to power somehow.
People in her staff and family are to blame for her dying in office.
Strangely enough, it’s genuinely, actually the Republicans’ fault. The reason she couldn’t retire was that she was on the judiciary committee and in order to fill her vacant seat they needed 60 votes. Naturally if she resigned the Republicans would have refused to put literally anyone in that seat so judicial confirmations would have been blocked until the next election. Now that she’s dead we’re in that situation anyway, but she refused to retire in order to try and make it to the next election so the Republicans couldn’t do that. Five years ago she was in reasonable health so there was no reason not to run for reelection. When health troubles hit she planned the only exit available that wouldn’t hurt the county.
It’ll be interesting that in a year from now we look back and see if this was true or not.
534 to go!
I actually met her once back in the 90s (bojack title song begins) on vacation in DC. She let me and my family into the Senate as observers when we mentioned we were from the Bay Area, which was kinda cool.
But that was two and a half decades ago. Since then she had gone very senile, and it became evident in recent years that the only thing that’d make her relinquish her position was death. So here we are.
So: thanks for letting me sit in on the federal legislative process that one time, but holy fuck lady you should have retired a long goddamn time ago.
The craziest part about this is that you saw her when she was still at an age that would be considered retirement age…
Oh, definitely. I’d probably have been fine if she went for like 1 more term at that point, but five more was just fucking stupid.
Reminds me of someone else, Ruth Bader Ginsburg:
BREAKING! Ruth Ginsburg R.I.P. Democrats Posturing Begins!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ui2WFs_l9T0
Dianne Feinstein dies at age 90
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4229697-dianne-feinstein-dies-at-age-90/
