• Delphia@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Take the treat, thank the management and still fight for better wages and conditions. Its not either/or and if you think it is you’re a fucking idiot. You should ALWAYS be fighting for more.

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      6 months ago

      Who are you talking to? No one is disagreeing with you, not to that degree for sure.

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        Its a mindset thing, it really ticks me off that I see this type of image on social media and at my own job all the time like its a either/or thing. Admittedly this one isnt as infuriating as most but still…

        When they have a BBQ breakfast at my work. Between 60 people they spend $300 on bacon, eggs and sausages. It costs them $5 a head once a month and theres always 2 or 3 people spouting off about raises but these idiots arent in the union, they just complain about being given a free breakfast and do nothing to actually generate momentum towards better wages and conditions.

        If my union came back from wage negotiations with $5 per month I would immediately quit the union and start looking for a new job. $5 a month is an INSULT of a raise, but a free lunch is still a free lunch. Take the free lunch, thank the boss for organising it and still fight for better conditions. This was given to you, you didnt have to fight for it so be grateful, but still fight for what you deserve.

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          Yea, I’m not that desperate, though. These worthless acts should be openly mocked for exactly what they are: management’s idea that we are stupid enough to actually be fooled by that shit.

          It would be far more worth it to me to take the bottles and return them than give them any satisfaction and/or validation. They are worth so little to me that I don’t mind throwing them back and management should know that. These aren’t “treats”, they’re cheap replacements for significant moneyary compensation.

          Free breakfast is certainly a little bigger than this, but it still doesn’t actually do anything to help anyone. It’s just another thing they can point to to pretend like they care while ignoring the only thing that will ever truly matter which is that they need to fucking pay us. I’ve had bosses before that pull that shit and then you ask for a raise that at least matches inflation and they try to tell you that “inflation doesn’t work that way.”

          So if we’re talking “mindsets” I really don’t have much time for people that think shit like vitamin water instead of a bonus is a “treat” we need to be grateful for. I never did like the taste of boot.

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            The point is taking the free shit DOESNT give them leverage. If they imply it does you call bullshit because it IS bullshit. I dont fight for what I’m worth any less hard because I get a free bacon and egg sandwich.

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              The free breakfast is different, though. You’ve introduced it to the conversation and are leaning into it but it’s different than the post to which you made your original comment. The free lunch is not, unlike the vitamin water, a replacement for significant monetary compensation.

              And no one has even said whether or not the person who took the picture took them or not, nor whether they would themselves. They are made because they’ve been, essentially, stolen from in broad daylight and are expected to be grateful for it.

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      6 months ago

      Or work for a company that doesn’t pollute and kill its customers. This company is owned by Coke and it’s just sugar water with B-whatever added to it to make it “vitamin.”

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        a company that doesn’t […] kill its customers.

        Has Coca Cola started a kick murder squad that I*m not aware of, or did they add polonium to Coke?

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      6 months ago

      They actually keep you at your desk and make you pee in vitamin water bottles so you can get more screen time in.

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    6 months ago

    It’s a problem of motivation, all right? Now if I work my ass off and Initech ships a few extra units, I don’t see another dime; so where’s the motivation?

    Peter Gibbons, Office Space, 1999

  • 😈MedicPig🐷BabySaver😈@lemmy.world
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    Ok. So, I’m pro Union. I’ve spoken to Teamster Local 25 about coming into my ambulance company.

    We can’t move forward unless I bring in 3-4 additional employees for a meeting. I do not know the context of that meeting.

    I have asked around. Cannot corral 3+ employees to meet with that Union.

    I guess that makes it a dead end.

    I fully admit to being ignorant to laws surrounding union rules.

    So, of course, I find it obscene and ridiculous that unions can’t hit the ground running the moment someone rings the bell.

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      From my understanding, unions require a vote from employees before being able to negotiate contracts with management. So if they want a few more people to come to a meeting, it’s probably because they need a sense of whether they’re gonna win that election and / or there is interest from more than a single employee.

      Getting a union can be a long process, just to get to the bargaining table. Successful campaigns require a tireless dedication from at least one employee who wants to fight.

      All worth it IMHO, and I’m heartened to hear about labor action for EMS staff. Best of luck in your efforts!

      • We discussed the process at length. IMO: I’m just a little disappointed that the Union wouldn’t be much more aggressive with just a hint of interest. I think they would be much more successful at recruiting than myself. Perhaps the labor laws don’t allow it.

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    Good luck with that, even with a union. Our incentive plan has metrics that executives control. Cash on hand? Profits? Buy a company. Stock goes up, cash and profits neutral, here’s your 1% minimum boys.

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      6 months ago

      If you’re really lucky, the CEO might show you a picture of the third yacht your hard work and dedication got him!

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      If you contribute to the profit, you should get a fair share of the profit. And not some pennies while those higher in the hierachy reap most of the profit for themselves.

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          I think it boils down to asking what the purpose of a company is. In my opinion, a company should be a vehicle to sustain and enhance the lives of all employed by it. Your paycheck should be your minimum compensation, with windfall profits mostly split amongst the employees so that the maximum number of contributors benefit from it.

          I’m ok with the idea of there being a sliding scale within reason because I understand that the company leadership holds a lot of the legal liability, but the CEO getting a yacht and the desk clerk getting a candy bar just doesn’t really cut it.